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Thread: Art v Craft
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22nd November 2004, 02:40 PM #1Senior Member
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Art v Craft
It would be interesting for members to define how they differentiate between their output as to which is art and which is craft.
When I first started making boxes I just defined them as craft, but after a few years I have now found that I am leaning more and more towards calling them art boxes. My latest batch are not as practical as my early ones especially my bandsaw boxes. I'd hate to think anyone would try to put anything in the drawers I shape!!.
Anyone having the same thoughts?
Alf
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22nd November 2004, 02:56 PM #2
AlfT, its a bit hard for me to decide too because I'm a bit of a BSartist as well as a crafty bastard
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22nd November 2004, 03:43 PM #3awesome member (I think)
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Craft would the name for the skill of producing the object, whether the object is art or not. Though many call that an art, as in woodworking is an art. Hence artisan. Blurred, really. But one can be very skilled but still unable to produce art. (Although when you see what passes for art these days you don't need any skill. Remember Federation Arch in Melbourne?)
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22nd November 2004, 03:51 PM #4
The difference between art and craft is 10% the skill that went to creating it, 10% the vision which imagined it, and 80% the price.
Based on the above what I produce is ... um .... crapGreat minds discuss ideas,
average minds discuss events,
small minds discuss people
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22nd November 2004, 04:16 PM #5
If anyone every referred to anything I make as art, I would be grossly offended
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22nd November 2004, 04:57 PM #6
I thought if it moved you emotionally it is art.Art is supposed to stir the senses, or something like that.
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22nd November 2004, 06:54 PM #7Originally Posted by silentC
And similarly if perchance anyone referred to anything of my doing as arty, I would immediately make an appointment for them at the optometrists, and if more than one person makes the remark an appointment with an exorcist for me. :eek:Bruce C.
catchy catchphrase needed here, apply in writing to the above .
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22nd November 2004, 09:03 PM #8
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22nd November 2004, 10:01 PM #9
Several people have written books on this subject.
I used to think that if it was useful, it was craft & if it was ornamental, it was art.... but...
then, one day I made a bud vase out of a very pretty piece of timber &
put it on the shelf & admired it for about 2 weeks....
Then, I bought a glass tube to go in it & filled it with water & stuck a
flower in it & admired the flower.... so now it is useful & ornamental, F'k? :confused:Cliff.
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22nd November 2004, 10:39 PM #10
No offence but I dont think It matters a Rats ***** which it is. I think of myself as a Craftsman but am not offended in any way by the use of the term Artisan or Artist. Some people see it as one some the other and some like Silent are offended by the use of a term not of their choosing.
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23rd November 2004, 05:35 AM #11well aged but not old
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The diiference between art and craft is a difficult and fine distinction which only the best and brightest minds will understand. But I will try to explain it for you all. So put everthing out of your hands, sit up and pay close attention.
Craft is a type of cheddar cheese, not very tastey but it has been around since the pharohs.
Art is an old fashioned word which is not often used eg Art thou a fool for thou hast not measured twice and cut once.
So now I have cleared that up we can all get back to the workshop to cut a bit of timber.
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23rd November 2004, 08:14 AM #12
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23rd November 2004, 08:14 AM #13
I looked up a few dictionaries and have found a few definitions that I thought are good although I have taken some liberty to paraphrase slightly:
art: The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty
craft: An occupation or trade requiring manual dexterity or skilled artistry
artist: One who is able by virtue of imagination and talent to create works of aesthetic value
artisan: A skilled manual worker or craftsman
craftsman: A man who practices a craft with great skill
So to me, an artist works with imagination and a craftsman uses skills
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23rd November 2004, 10:23 AM #14
I looked up a few dictionaries too (well actually I only looked up one):
artist(col) bull artist - noun
one notorious for excessive talk which is usually boastful, exaggerated and unreliable.
craft(col) Craft's disease - noun (Jocular)
forgetfulness brought on by old age. [acronym from the phrase Can't Remember A Frigging Thing]
It seems to me that both terms are completely in context and descriptive of subscribers to this board.
Cheers,
P
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23rd November 2004, 11:17 AM #15Originally Posted by bitingmidge