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2nd March 2006, 10:54 PM #1
Problem axle design for folding step-stool
Help! Pictured is my newly finished folding stool for the kitchen. One major problem. The stainless steel (2cm dia) rod used as an axle for the steps has to be strong and stay put where it's meant to be! However, in order to get it into position between the front legs of the stool, the rod can't be more than a couple of millimeters longer than the width between the legs. That means it's possibly going to slip out of either end.
I've used the forstner to drill a socket in both legs about 10mm deep, which of course can be re-filled if necessary.
One idea is to screw chrome towel-rail supports onto each leg after I've got the steps into position. But will they support 100kg?
As to "staying-put", I'm thinking a couple of sleeves (4cm) that can slip over each stub. A drop of super-glue under each and bob's your uncle!
Advice will be very welcome.
Picture of the finished product at Finishing :
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=29004dave
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If I'm reading the photos correctly, the axle had to go in before the outer sides were glued into place, then there is no chance of the axle falling out - of course the inside step section had to be finished first too.
Putting the axle in last by wiggling it about & having it 10mm or so short just doesn't cut it design wise - it works for sliding doors and the like because they are running in a track & gravity keeps them there - the top is just a guide. In your case, gravity is trying to pull it out of place.
A quick save would be to drill right thru' the sides, put in a full length axle & plug the holes with 'mushroom' plugs. If you only have the EXACT length, you could glue a length of dowel inside it to center it. (Sudden rush of blood to the brain department) - glue a bit of dowel into one end, then make a weak spring of coathanger wire (or whatever) to fit inside the tube, then put another length of dowel into the tube - done correctly this will keep the tube centered plus reinforce the ends so they are less likely to collapse under pressure. You can put glue on the last bit if yopu don't want it removeable later.
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3rd March 2006, 12:54 AM #3Originally Posted by bsrlee
If you only have the EXACT length, you could glue a length of dowel inside it to center it. (Sudden rush of blood to the brain department) - glue a bit of dowel into one end, then make a weak spring of coathanger wire (or whatever) to fit inside the tube, then put another length of dowel into the tube - done correctly this will keep the tube centered plus reinforce the ends so they are less likely to collapse under pressure. You can put glue on the last bit if yopu don't want it removeable later.
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3rd March 2006, 08:10 AM #4
Thanks. I knew I wasn't thinking. I love the spring loaded idea.
I really don't know why I don't want the axle to go right through the legs. After all, a couple of mushroom plugs wouldn't look that bad, really.
AND I'd get the most important feature - strength.
The "spring" idea should be just as strong.....AND the dowel inside the rod would prevent any flexing which the "right-through" approach does not do as well.
I'd want my spring near the centre of the rod so that I get the full length of dowel at each end - for strength.
I'd still need the sleeves to keep the steps centred.dave
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