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    Default Beading for kitchen doors

    I want to place some beading detail within my raised panel doors for a kitchen. I am not sure what type of beading i want, but i know i don't have the facilities to try and make this type of moulding.

    So can someone point to where i could get some molding in MDF. I don't want to use hardwood as I'll be painting these.

    P.S please dont recommend bunnies or Mitre 10. There must be some good kitchen supply stores out there that i can go and see.

    I live in Melbourne (NE suburbs)

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    I am not sure what you mean by moulding, do you want to put a different shape, like a fx diamond in the middle of the door?
    If you have raised panel eg ogee style doors already, the beading would have to be in the same style to look like it belongs to the door and not like an add-on thing.

    As far as I know, all moulding are made by the same company (the name escapes me) and bought by the shops in premade lengths. The only MDF mouldings I have seen were from framing shops and would not sit flat on a door.

    Of course I can only speak of what I have seen, someone else may know where you can get what you want

    If you want to put a shape in the middle of the doors, have a look at craft stores like Spotlight, they have many different shapes made from MDF.

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    Hey Wolfie,

    So what your suggesting is that Porta tend to make all the moldings that are produced.
    I was trying to make something like ....



    So next the stiles and rails is what i am trying to buy. I want to make a plain door front and add a little detail to the inside to break the look.

    I hope this may make things clearer. I thought I may need to explain what i was after a little better.

    /M

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    Seafurymike,

    This may save you some dollars but my stile and rail cutters cut an ogee as well as the slot for the raised panel. if you haven't bought your rail and stile cutters yet, look around at the options.
    If you really wanted a bead, there are bead cutters available.

    Carry Pine

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    SFM
    if you have a router and saw bench (or a triton) you can make your own (it's pretty easy) otherwise try Porta mouldings

    any decent timber yard will have or can get them. I don't know if they do mbf. but I believe they do their profiles in radiata, worth checking the white/yellow pages and ringing around

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by seafurymike View Post
    Hey Wolfie,

    So what your suggesting is that Porta tend to make all the moldings that are produced.
    I was trying to make something like ....



    So next the stiles and rails is what i am trying to buy. I want to make a plain door front and add a little detail to the inside to break the look.

    I hope this may make things clearer. I thought I may need to explain what i was after a little better.

    /M

    Still not any clearer, that door has no applied mouldings at all. There's a flat panel and all the "moulding" is part of the stile/rail profile. You could get a joinery to make you some custom beading but you'd be apying a set up charge and possibly a minimum run of a hundred metres or more.

    Mick

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    Perhaps he's looking at bolection mouldings, Mick.

    Or the inset mouldings that may hold a flat plywood panel inside the rebate cut into the door rails and stiles.

    Cheers,

    eddie

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    I wonder whether this is actually what you are trying to do?
    http://www.newwoodworker.com/bldraspnldors.html
    It shows how to build tongue and groove doors.
    Maybe you believe the moulding is added after?
    If you do not have a router table, please do not attempt to use rail and stile bits, you cannot control them in a handheld router.
    If you do not know how to operate a router, maybe you are thinking about making a mitred frame with a plywood panel and then add the beading for interest?
    All you would need then is a manual mitre saw, a biscuit joiner, corner clamps and glue.
    I did that in my first house when money was really really tight.
    Figured it looked better than no doors at all
    Wolffie
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    Hey Wolffie,Eddie - YES

    Yes, i have assumed that the moulding within/on the panel was added "after".
    I see that in most cases you actually route it into the stiles and rails. Nice and neat. I have been looking for a link like the one you supplied on how to build these, I just kept coming up with bits and pieces to the puzzle.

    The only tools i don't have is a router table, thus why i felt I should just apply moulding "pre-bought" after the fact. I have considered making a temp router table out of a piece of old kitchen table melamine. I am not sure that i can get it to produce the nice crisp moulding that I want. After i finish the kitchen, thats my next project.

    Carrie, whats your website or details. Maybe PM me and i can call you about it.

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    Mike
    My router table is the top half of an old wall oven cabinet.
    My workbench is an old frame from an old kitchen/dining table that we bought at a garage sale for $10 with a 2 layers of 22 mm plywood on top.
    The crisp moulding you are talking about is made by the bit not by the table.
    When you buy a router, make sure you get one with variable speed, soft start and that it can take 1/2" bits. Ours has the collets for both 1/4" and 1/2" bits, the 1/4" bits are cheaper but the 1/2" are stronger. We paid the princely sum of $199 for ours.
    We are age pensioners and cannot afford the fancy stuff so we make do with what we can manage.
    We started out with el cheapo power tools, then, as they needed replacement we bought good ones, one at a time.
    We do have a bandsaw, joiner and thicknesser but we buy it as we scrape the money together.
    The workshop is a 6 x 3 ATCO carport we have enclosed at the sides and have a tarp at the ends to keep the rain out.
    The best part is we are having a ball making things
    Feel free to PM me if you wish.
    Wolffie
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