Thread: If i was welding I'd call it the art of Spacecraft...

Bog - dress - bog.

who do you think will buy the board?
if it were George Nakashima, he would want the board without any bog.

Originally Posted by BobL

Bog - dress - bog.

With what Bob - with what?

Originally Posted by ian

who do you think will buy the board?
if it were George Nakashima, he would want the board without any bog.

Now that - is cool! Id never heard of George Nakashima before. Thank you for that.

In all honesty I have no idea who might buy it. What I do know is that theres no-one on my customer list that would touch that board as it stands. The other thing I know is that (because I can see the back side of it and its mate which obviously no-one else can) they are really nice bits of timber. And if I rip them both back to clear the defect they'll still be really nice bits of timber. But its the difference between making a tabletop in two boards against making it with three, which from a purely commercial viewpoint does make more sense then playing around with them as they stand. Aesthetically I'm not so sure.

At worst I'll spend a bit of my time and some bog and then rip them back anyway. But I'll learn something from it as well so its hardly something I'd call waste.

I dont see much point in bogging before dressing. West epoxy is as good as any other. Personally, I'd cut the defect out. I would prefer three boards in a table top than a bogged heart-in bit of rubbish. Shame on you John

Leave the bog out. You are creating extra work (removal of the bog) for someone who would wish to turn the boards into furniture. Let the potential Buyer know up front what the challenge is. If the board is unsaleable as is, then it is fraudulent to paint it as something it is not. And this is unnecessary anyway - there are many who seek out these boards for the opportunity to do something creative (and imitate George Nakashima).

Regads from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by rustynail

I dont see much point in bogging before dressing. West epoxy is as good as any other. Personally, I'd cut the defect out. I would prefer three boards in a table top than a bogged heart-in bit of rubbish. Shame on you John

Yah me too mate, but then I get around and see all these bogged up boards in table tops and benches and people raving about how beautiful they are. Which they can be I'll admit.
I got about as much hope of shifting boards like that as I do of sprouting wings, so i figure why not try something different, bog them up and slap a coat of mirotone on them and see what happens. I keep getting told I should try and value add more: hock them as bar tops or something.

Originally Posted by derekcohen

Leave the bog out. You are creating extra work (removal of the bog) for someone who would wish to turn the boards into furniture. Let the potential Buyer know up front what the challenge is. If the board is unsaleable as is, then it is fraudulent to paint it as something it is not. And this is unnecessary anyway - there are many who seek out these boards for the opportunity to do something creative (and imitate George Nakashima).

Regads from Perth

Derek

My customer base is pretty much all traditional cabinet making and joinery firms and I wouldnt think about doing anything other then rip them down for sale to those guys. So when i say its unsaleable i mean its unsaleable to my hard won and loyal customer base rather then could not be sold to a different market. If one wants timber to turn into furniture I got packs of the stuff ready to go, none with these sort of issues. Thing being I dont want to sell them to those guys.

I also know there are other people out there who actually prefer the character of wood when its got holes and cracks etc. If I bog them and take them to market as bar tops for instance - well withing the range of even my meager woodworking skills - I dont regard that as anything more then value adding and targeted marketing. Based on what I see in my travels people seem willing to pay more for that then they do for traditional fine cabinetry pieces at the moment, and I tell ya Derek... its a hell of a lot easier to find flawed boards then good ones at that size.

Originally Posted by John.G

I also know there are other people out there who actually prefer the character of wood when its got holes and cracks etc. If I bog them and take them to market as bar tops for instance - well withing the range of even my meager woodworking skills - I dont regard that as anything more then value adding and targeted marketing. Based on what I see in my travels people seem willing to pay more for that then they do for traditional fine cabinetry pieces at the moment, and I tell ya Derek... its a hell of a lot easier to find flawed boards then good ones at that size.

yeah, I know what you mean
I'm just not sure whether it's a preference or ignorance.
A lot of the bogged-up stuff I see appears to result from failure to buy enough wood to cover expected wastage in the first place

what upsets me is when a bit of bogged-up firewood is mixed with good wood with the whole lot destined for the fire 10 years hence.