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23rd June 2022, 03:16 PM #1
How to get this broke pipe out (w pic)
So my ladder falls and hits the (cheap) aftermarket regulator I have attached to my compressor and breaks the (accompanying cheap) connection pipe off flush with the compressor component leaving about 1/3" of threaded pipe inside the compressor component itself. If it would've broken on the regulator side I could just remove the rest of the pipe and replace the whole thing. But as it stands I'm gonna have to work the last bit of this male pipe out of the female threads. The pipe is copper so maybe that'll end up being to my advantage. How would you go about removing something like this? My camera takes bad close ups but to give some perspective the I.D. of the pipe is .40 in. Drew that line in there to show the end of the pipe.
I've got easy outs for rounded nuts but I'm not sure if there's anything like that for this situation. Can't be the first time it's happened to someone.
I'm afraid the pipe is in there fairly snug so I don't think prying one side up with a pic and then trying to work it around with some needle nose pliers is gonna get any kind of result.
I'm all ears. Thanks.
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23rd June 2022, 03:40 PM #2
Sorry I cannot help, Bradley, but I really do appreciate when someone has a stuff up that I have not yet made!
A question: What is the metal holding the female thread - hope its harder than the copper.
Close up photos: I have the same problem. My solution is is to take the closest in focus photo that I can and later crop it to keep the relevant bit.
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23rd June 2022, 04:08 PM #3Senior Member
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I would try a tapered object such as a small triangular file or the end of a regular file with the handle removed tap it in softly and see if it will bite
you could also try a tapered flat blade screw driver after carefully filing a slot into the inside of the pipe if possible'
you would have to be careful with any of these, that you dont expand the pipe anymore making it harder to turn
if none of those work, if there's a raised edge you could gently try collapsing the pipe inwards, hopefully it could become easier to turn by doing so
good luck
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23rd June 2022, 05:53 PM #4
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23rd June 2022, 06:18 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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23rd June 2022, 06:38 PM #6
I would use the file first then a tapered piece of wood dowel rod to try working the copper pipe back.
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23rd June 2022, 07:06 PM #7.
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+1 for the extractor screw set.
Also there is a good chance that either Loctite or gas thread sealant was use so you nee to get it hot than a couple of hundred to melt the sealer while you try an extract it..
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23rd June 2022, 07:46 PM #8Senior Member
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Either an easy out if you can get one. Otherwise try tapping an Allen key in that is slightly oversized, maybe even use a triangle file to file the six points of contact for an Allen key so you can go a bit bigger. Torx bit might be a substitute for the Allen keys if you have those.
Cheers Andrew
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23rd June 2022, 07:52 PM #9
Easy as.
Use two bolts.
Ill find a video.
Edit: I cant seem to find a video or picture. So Let me describe until I do. One obtains two bolts that fit into the inside of the sheered pipe. They are to be a reasonable fit, but they don't need to screw in or anything. One of the bolts is tipped on an angle, wedging the two bolts IN the pipe... and the centre one unwinds (using a spanner) the sheered pipe. The tipped bolt tightens even more, acting like a torque-vice, as more force is applied to the other bolt doing the undoing.
Does this make sense? A short video is obviously better. I've seen this done in machinists shops. Ive also seen plumbers do EXACTLY this for removing sheered taps....
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23rd June 2022, 08:21 PM #10Senior Member
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23rd June 2022, 09:01 PM #11
The PRINCIPLE is the same as this fancy doodad, but one just uses two bolts.
Simply by offsetting (tilting) one of the bolts causes it to lock up. The reason for "bolts" is they have threads to grip the inside of the broken off NPT.
I can't for the life of me find that video again. Curses!
EDIT - Jesus H Christ this took some finding!
Here is how its done. Modify a bit to accommodate the deeper broken thread.
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23rd June 2022, 09:16 PM #12Senior Member
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thanks for that, certainly is a bit of ingenuity,
after 45 years in the plumbing industry working with threaded pipe I never saw that one
just goes to show you CAN teach old dogs new tricks
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23rd June 2022, 11:23 PM #13
Hodgo, how cool is it.
I've seen it twice by plumbers - first was a galvanised pipe in a yard that had broken it off, the second was a video of some dude in a shithole like Afghanistan where there was a bathroom tub spout that was broken off at the tiles.
I saw a machinist do this once to release a rather large ID pipe that was broken off in another. No fancy gear, just grabbed two bolts and unwound it. Neato!
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8th July 2022, 02:56 PM #14
Man thanks for that 2 bolt tip video. One of the best tricks I've seen in a while. ID for my problem pipe is .40 and I don't think I had any bolts that would've done the trick. In the end I used some easy outs and because the threads are NPT the whole thing just kind of fell out once it broke loose. Glad I know these handy little tools exist now.
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