Building a picket gate- hinge question

**astrid** · 16th November 2014, 04:10 PM

Hello strangers

I've finally begun work on the plethora of small things to be done on my new house.

Safety first.. the picket gate that opens directly onto a very busy rd is just about on it's last legs. I have to keep the dog and cat safe!

It's frame is 1400 high and 950 wide. (it's actually imperially measured so It must be at least 40 years old)

It was built of pine and rotting all over.

Sooo Liam and I decided the best thing to do was to make an exact copy before it finally falls over.
We've built the frame out of ash so it's going to be a little heavier than the old one.

I'm wondering how you choose the correct hinges. assuming the ones on the old gate are the right sort and size, do I use the same ones (but new) or do I need to get longer (heavier) ones to take the extra weight?

these sort
T_hinge001.jpg
Cheers

Mel

**astrid** · 16th November 2014, 04:25 PM

Sort of like this one but more solid. I'm using 100x45 ash for all the rails plus the pickets are closer together.

The hinges will be attached to a post bolted into next doors wall

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**Handyjack** · 16th November 2014, 05:57 PM

I like to use this type. http://www.bunnings.com.au/zenith-15...-pack_p4160374
It allows you to lift the gate off if required. They are available in various types, left and right hinged - very important you have the right one, for wooden frame, metal frame - weld on, or a combination of wood post and metal frame.

**astrid** · 16th November 2014, 06:49 PM

Would they take the weight ? I like the idea of being able to lift it off.. that gate is the only access to the back..down a 1500 wide passage..but there must be a reason why the triangular hinges are usually used?

**Wrongwayfirst** · 16th November 2014, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by astrid

Would they take the weight ? I like the idea of being able to lift it off.. that gate is the only access to the back..down a 1500 wide passage..but there must be a reason why the triangular hinges are usually used?

The ball bearing hinges will take up to 80kg from memory. Price is the main reason Tee hinges are used which is what you have pictured $10 vs $30. Tee hinges won't carry anywhere near that weight by the way.

**astrid** · 17th November 2014, 06:01 PM

T hinges = strap hinges?

There's three on the existing gate..been there 40 years or so.

What I'm really asking I suppose is is there a guide or something to what hinges to use where and what weight they will take?

The strap hinges are $39 a pair at Peters Hardware I don't trust Bunnings quality much.

**chrisb691** · 17th November 2014, 07:42 PM

Is it currently hinged that way Astrid?

**astrid** · 18th November 2014, 11:22 PM

yep, strap hinges. but the new gate will be heavier because I'm using ash instead of pine.

**astrid** · 18th November 2014, 11:28 PM

yep, strap hinges. but the new gate will be heavier because I'm using ash instead of pine.

I don't quite know how to express my concerns. I'm assuming that the long strap on the strap hinge will take the load of a wide gate better than a hinge that only supports on the post side of the gate?

sort of distributing the weight better?

**Bob38S** · 19th November 2014, 10:32 AM

Have had ball bearing hinges on large pool gates for 25 years.

Never had a problem with sag or movement. The hinges are not really cheap but you only need to do the job once.

https://www.blackwoods.com.au/search...741904?c=Group

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