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Thread: Buying a Drill Press
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30th March 2017, 03:54 PM #16Senior Member
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Hi Peter
Electronic speed control is good, it responds well keeping the revs around the 2500 rpm mark even with a fair amount of feed and using a 30mm spade bit into Jarrah. Even drilling 10mm holes in 6mm steel hasn't been a problem
The laser guide not so good, masked by most forstner bits and slightly off line (around 1mm), not sure if you can adjust this and, to be honest, I don't use it so haven't bothered investigating. Fence is a bit light weight but you could easily replace it with something sturdier but as most other drills don't come with any sort of fence this is still a bonus.
The main feature for me was the depth of holes that can be drilled with the Bosch, releasing the lever at the back allows you to drill at least the length of the drill bit (even spade or forstner bits) which is something I haven't found on even the bigger pedestal drills.
It is light and although I haven't fixed mine down yet I do clamp the base when the drill head is working near the top of the mast to make sure it doesn't move or lean.
I would say it's a good light weight machine with some great features
Cheers Dave
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31st March 2017, 02:01 PM #17GOLD MEMBER
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What is it like using the wheel? I played with it instore and it seemed a bit small. It felt like you might get half way down the travel and then need to move your hand. Or perhaps its just the way I was holding the wheel?
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31st March 2017, 02:29 PM #18Frequent Learner
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Cheap means nasty.
I have the carbatec equivalent, similar price point (i think I paid about 350), similar spec. If I had another chance i would go with a better machine. These cheapies are fine for occasional work that doesn't require a great degree of accuracy but other than that they do have many issues. Some of the things i've found with mine
Table that comes with it is sucky and small, i built a wooden top for it and added a fence
The variable speed is a joke, you have to change belts around to get different speeds which can be a pain if you have many different sized bits to go through
The chuck is cheap and nasty, this can be replaced but it's another cost
The motor is supposedly 3/4hp but it bogs down for any larger bit. Anything beyond 45mm forstner is impossible even in low speed/higher torque configuration.
The casting quality is very poor
Adjust is clunky and not very smooth.
In summary it does the job...mostly...but you are better off saving a little bit of extra $$ and buying something that will last... or go second hand with a quality older model.
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31st March 2017, 03:57 PM #19Senior Member
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Im thinking of grabbing one of these on the weekend for my new workshop, cheap at $400 AUD, and small enough to bolt on to a rolling bench, along with the bench grinder/linisher and bench vice.
A long as it drills ok, ill be happy with it for now, as it won't be seeing any real serious work until i finish building my Campervan
As much as i want the DVR drill press, i can't seem to find anywhere to put it, my shed has seemed to shrink with all this rain
Plus my money i put aside for the DVR has been blown on a new welder Certiflat Welding table and Linishall grinder/linisher (Good price on these Grinders at Machinery Warehouse today)
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31st March 2017, 07:22 PM #20GOLD MEMBER
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H&F is currently have a sale , online only until the end of today I think.http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/3DS...3%20DAY%20SALE
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31st March 2017, 09:01 PM #21Senior Member
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Wheel is certainly too small, particularly when you have the amount of travel that this drill does. I've had to 'walk' around the wheel to get a further grip on many occassions
I've been looking for a handle that attaches to the outside of the wheel (similar to those found on forklift steering wheels) that allows you to turn the wheel completely round rather than just in short sections. May have to drill a hole in the wheel and make and fit a freewheeling handle
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1st April 2017, 05:19 PM #22
You want a spinner knob. For example STEERING WHEEL SPINNER HEAVY DUTY CAR /TRUCK HANDLE SUICIDE POWER KNOB M2 | eBay or Spinner Knobs | TotalAbility
There are many more web pages available.
You may need two so as to always be able to feed the wheel. There would be points where if you had one it would be uncomfortable to "drive" the quill.
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1st April 2017, 08:11 PM #23Senior Member
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I picked up one of those Bosch drill presses from Bunnings this morning as i had a few steel plates i had to drill.
The variable speed is handy, didn't have to muck around with any belts.
The inbuilt clamping system is different, but easy to get use to.
The laser is handy, but i don't think mine is right..as i don't get a complete X on the work piece.
I was drilling 13mm into mild steel and it handled it fine, it didn't seem to struggle, but i took it easy at 700 rpm and used cutting fluid
Its got a 2 year warranty, so if its going to break, i'm sure it'll be within 2 years.
Didn't really check to set if there was any shaft wobble, i was too busy and just needed to push out some holes, so i could crack on and do some welding.
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2nd April 2017, 09:45 AM #24
I've been using the Bosch for some time now, still really like it, and it's ideal for the smaller WW and MW that I do, I have mine bolted to a small moveable cabinet holding everything I use for drilling, and a small swivel head vice on the side for holding a dust pickup when needed.
The Lasers do not cross if the chuck is close to the work (no X), Laser on mine is accurate when further away, but has about 1mm shift due to parallax error as you get close and no way to adjust for that, although it could be modified to do so.
Some people complained of the Head moving on the column, but if the Locking lever is tightened correctly it does not move. I use it with some big Hole saws in timber and aluminium and being able to use the low speed gearbox and speed adjustment for that means that I simply wouldn't do with out it now.
Only thing I've had to do is adjust the Head unit to Column holding force (two allen screws) and lubricate the column once to keep moving smoothly.
As others have pointed out, It's not a heavy duty thing you just reef on, but for lighter work it is still light years ahead of the small standard drill press that I had been using.
Oh, for some reason I have no trouble with the wheel, found it easier that the 3 rods on the old unit, but I acknowledge a lot of people don't like it.
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2nd April 2017, 04:20 PM #25
I've gone and ordered one today.
I went to Mitre 10 and had a play, I decided I would want to modify the wheel more likely than not,
but the one factor that I didn't see mentioned in any of the youtube presentations I saw is this: you do not crank the table up and down.
You crank the head unit up and down.
Logistically speaking, for large work pieces, this is a huge advantage in my opinion. I will simply
create a surround at the same thickness as the height of the table on the Bosch. No jigging stands up and down, trying to get things levelled perfectly flat - do it
once and it will be ready made for good and always at the right height...
I'll post a report once I've done a few concealed hinge cups. I don't expect any problems
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2nd April 2017, 04:47 PM #26
That's one of the things that I really like about the design. Although I like the inbuilt clamp it can be to small on occasions, but the table has two spots either side of the column, towards the edges of the table, that are just perfect for two toggle clamps.
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2nd April 2017, 05:09 PM #27Senior Member
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Sorry Rushil 89
Seems like the Bosch Fan Club have taken over your thread
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2nd April 2017, 05:29 PM #28Senior Member
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Opps i just noticed that myself...it is leaning towards more about the Bosch drill that the full boar model.
As for the Bosch fan club, i don't know about that, who would be a Bosch fan?? when there is festool
just pointing out the other options, pros and con's for around the same price.
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13th April 2017, 03:10 PM #29Senior Member
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Fitted a spinner knob to the wheel on the Bosch, works great BUT the drill base has to be secured front and back to manage the forces on the drill head when turning the wheel (particularly when the drill head is at the top of the mast)
PS Spinner knobs generally don't fit the wheel and you will need to modify the mounting bracket
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21st April 2023, 06:52 PM #30New Members
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I bought a D162
I realize this is a six-year old thread, but the thread came up on Google's first page, when I was researching a drill press, so this is paying forward for the next person looking for a drill press.
Turns out Machinery House in Auckland carries the same units as the Aussie link, and they had one in stock. I bought the BD 594 ($595 NZ including 15% GST). which is their strongest bench drill. It is solid... 55 kg, and no frills. No digital controls to die, not too many lawyer bits that make it harder to injure oneself. Traditional key rather than keyless. Set up instructions were somewhat sparse, but not too difficult to figure out.
I would say this is an ideal tool for a serious amateur with a workshop or a farm, who needs a drill press to be strong, but not used every day - or even every week. I looked at the Full Boar machines, but had bad luck with the brand. We bought a concrete hand mixer (basically a huge egg beater) and my less than careful assistant cooked the motor. I also find the keyless chucks to be a pain, and prefer the traditional key. The machining is impressive.
This drill press is not much different than the presses of 100 years ago and the company Hare and Forbes is an Australian tool and machinery company that commissions products under their own brand. The BD594 is made in China. But, having done business in China, I find the secret to quality is relationships. If a factory understands you want the cheapest price, they are a master at cost cutting where it matters... poorer quality metal, plastics that will break, etc. But if the management and line staff understand you want quality, the price will be a bit higher, but the right materials, machining and assembly will deliver a quality product at a fair price.
I am expecting this drill press to outlast me, and find it the right balance of quality and price for farm and home workshop needs.
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