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10th March 2007, 09:12 PM #1Intermediate Member
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In need of a clamping solution
Hi everyone,
I'm after some solutions as to the best way to clamp the below project, I'll try to describe it best I can.
I'm making a 45 degree corner rail and stile door, and the stiles will be made from 90mm x 19mm tas oak.
I've set up my saw to cut the stiles at 22.5 degrees, then I flip one of the pieces end for end, then I have to fix them together to make a 45 degree angle.
The length of the stiles are 760mm each so I would need to make sure they are clamped and fixed true or everything will look crap.
I've attached some pics to describe what I am trying to do. All help appreciated.
Thanks24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a carton ...Its no coincidence
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10th March 2007, 09:19 PM #2
Make some diamond-shaped blocks, 50mm to a side and 135° on the large angle. You could then use G- or C-clamps to hold it all together, but I reckon band-clamps around each block would be a better choice.
Use of tape (or similar) to prevent gluing to blocks and packers to prevent damage to corners is recommended.
- Andy Mc
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10th March 2007, 09:33 PM #3
Grab a piece of MDF or similar longer and wider than your stiles, then attach a cleat along one side put the stiles on it then attach another cleat so it holds the stiles in alignment, now simply glue them up and clamp them down along the middle.
Like this,
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10th March 2007, 10:14 PM #4.
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Glue a couple of 18mm ply strips for 36mm and cut out in the shape below. They will do the trick
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10th March 2007, 10:28 PM #5In pursuit of excellence
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Can't claim the following tip as mine (picked it up from some yank mag), but it's dead simple and really easy.
Just lay the stiles down flat and parallel to each other, with the sharp edges of the bevels touching. Run some tape (something strong) down the joint with the joint in the middle of the tape. Do a few layers if you think it needs it. Make sure you get the bevels touching perfectly after taping.
Flip the taped stiles over, and apply glue to the mating faces. Close the stiles together, like a hinge, and hold the joint closed using whatever takes your fancy :
- a bunch of tape pieces from one stile to the other
- Clamps (I use quick clamps, their rubbery contact pads bite in to the edges just fine and don't slip)
- Rubber tube or occy strap wound in a spiral round the assembly and clamped off at either end.
Sounds dodgy I know, but it really works. Try it on a bit of scrap and see how it goes.
Cheers,
Justin.
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10th March 2007, 10:46 PM #6
All those ideas will work,
or use hide glue & just rub the joint till it grabs - no clamps at all
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11th March 2007, 05:57 AM #7Intermediate Member
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Strewth, thanks heaps, lots of good options there.
I'll try them on a few scraps first and see which method suits my skill level and application and will post back.
Thanks for the fast help.24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a carton ...Its no coincidence
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11th March 2007, 02:20 PM #8Intermediate Member
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Ok, I've tried it on my scrap pieces first, thought to try the easiest method first to see how I go, and that was with the tape, and have to say that on my scrap test it worked a charm, put the tape on, applied some glue and clamped for a while, drilled some pilot holes and countersunk some screws to give it some guts, seems to work a charm.
Piccies attached show the end result.
Real test will be with the real pieces.24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a carton ...Its no coincidence
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12th March 2007, 12:14 AM #9GOLD MEMBER
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Depending on how much woodwork you are doing, and which side of the job will be seen, you may find a 'Pocket hole screw' jig very handy - do a search on 'Kreg' and you'll find a heap of links, there are cheaper & probably inferior knock-offs around. It does actually work as a substitute for clamps if there is a side that won't be seen, or for stuff to use in the shed.
The tape system, the tip comes from the Taunton Press's books BTW - is also great for keeping the glue from squeezing out on the 'pointy' side of the joint, so clean up is a lot easier before painting.
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13th March 2007, 07:23 AM #10Intermediate Member
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Thanks for the help everyone, lots of good methods there, i'll be remembering them in future.
I have had the pocket hole screw jig on my shopping list for a while, just havent obtained one yet.
I went straight from my scrap piece to my good pieces with confidence, and am happy with the result i had.
First pic is the 4 steps used.
Second pic is the end result of the door frame, dry fitted.
Thanks for the help.24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a carton ...Its no coincidence
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13th March 2007, 12:14 PM #11
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13th March 2007, 07:07 PM #12Intermediate Member
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I'm new to woodwork, give me a lathe, mill, oxy and welder etc and i'm more than comfortable, but with timber there's too much room for human error to cause problems, so thought i'd better add some screws for security, theyre in a kitchen so will cop a bit of handling, and they wont be seen as they are inside the door, and i will putty over them for appearance as well.
Only thing i could have done better would be to have obtained a router bit to clean the cut up a bit, however i cut them with a triton saw screwed to a bit of mdf, set angle at 22 1/2 degrees and cut thru the mdf, suspended it upside down on some horses, clamped a fence and set the blade height to just cut thru the timber, gave them a quick sand and glued them up. A bit of a rogue technique but suprisingly they came out well.24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a carton ...Its no coincidence
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15th March 2007, 09:05 PM #13
Hi
I went straight from my scrap piece to my good pieces with confidence, and am happy with the result i had.
First pic is the 4 steps used. Second pic is the end result of the door frame, dry fitted.
They turned out very well.Kind Regards
Peter
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