Thread: Glass on a display - what is safe?

Usually it's just safety glass in a display cabinet, unless you are worried about it being used to rest shopping bags/children on, in which case you bump it up to laminated glass. (how do I know...I watched someone shut the tempered door on a display cabinet 'a little too violently', so it went from being a door to being a 'clean up in aisle 3'.)

The glass industry seems to be the very last one to have quoting on any of their sites.

None so far!

How hard can it be! 500x700 in 3mm tempered... that'll be 49.95 please sir! Ready for collection in 2 days....

Not this industry.

Try the "local" windscreen place, not necessarily one of the biggies. Have had success getting glass cut from my local bloke.

I normally assume that the tendency to hide price information means that it's an industry that enjoys high margins and they don't want to encourage price discounting to erode this.

I know I've been amazed that it was cheaper to have a glazier visit and replace a broken pane than to source the glass myself.

Bunnings, if you are listening, how about cut-to-size glass?

Guestimate about $200 per square meter.

Originally Posted by Master Splinter

I normally assume that the tendency to hide price information means that it's an industry that enjoys high margins and they don't want to encourage price discounting to erode this.

I know I've been amazed that it was cheaper to have a glazier visit and replace a broken pane than to source the glass myself.

Bunnings, if you are listening, how about cut-to-size glass?

Guestimate about $200 per square meter.

i knonw that it is a different product but i pay $65 per sq metre (cut to my requirements) for 2mm clear for picture frames

regards david

In the past when I have obtained prices for mirrors or glass, the place closest to me was almost to twice the price of a glazier than one 13 kilometers away. The closest one is in a small shop, the second one is like a factory.

I would ring around on Monday.

From my efforts today I wholeheartedly agree with Master Splinter.

Glass supply is a highly anti-competitive, price collusive, fat margin and protectionist industry.

The very questions they asked proved to me that consumers are not working within in a competitive field. On Monday I'm going to try a few picture framers.

Originally Posted by Evanism

From my efforts today I wholeheartedly agree with Master Splinter.

Glass supply is a highly anti-competitive, price collusive, fat margin and protectionist industry.

The very questions they asked proved to me that consumers are not working within in a competitive field. On Monday I'm going to try a few picture framers.

i don't know about this but i suspect 2mm would be too thin for what you want ... i only mentioned that to give SOME indication of price .... i buy mine from a window/showerscreen place which does general glazing as well


regards david

Well, it's $5.35 FOB per square meter (min.100 square meters) on Alibaba....

Good luck getting 2mm toughened glass. almost all will only go as low as 4mm, as they tend to blow up in the oven otherwise. Try 5mm float, would be the cheapest. Or if u want it to be a bit safer get a price on 6.38mm laminate. If you want toughened they will charge for an aris edgework.
For a door even with little use, I wouldn't use 3mm. It's notoriously dangerous, and should only probably be used for mirrors and frames that won't be fiddled with Much.
in saying all that I'm not a glazier I just happen to work in the industry transporting the stuff.
Cheers Deane

On further thought, you could get away with 4mm float on a panel that size. It would be ALOT safer than 3mm. But preferably you would want the 4mm toughened, with just a basic hand aris (cheapest option). If it was me I'd get the quotes for both and then give the option to your customer, and explain why you would want one over the other and add it onto the cost perhaps.
It is true about the glass industry there are large margins, but it's very dangerous, and lots of other factors incorporated into the price.

for instance the price of 3mm toughened glass might be more or equally expensive than the 4mm because for one, it's not as commonly used, and secondly they tend to lose more in the toughening process of which the costs have to be recovered.
I've also seen $15,000 worth of glass been destroyed from simple inexperience or lack of attention on numerous occasions. In those situations big margins help ease the sting a little bit.

got to agree with the 4mm toughened.

3mm is too thin for the size. I'd use 3mm in a top window where kids can't get to it and even then I wouldn't go over say 600mm in any one direction.
2mm really is only for those small picture frames.

I think legally now in vic all bottom window glass (the floor to ceiling ones) have to be toughened now, not sure if thats new builds only or replacement as well.
Had a friend with 80cm by 20cm glass in tv cabinet smash when one of the kids shut it, shards came down in huge pieces.

Might be worth going to some op-shops, seen a few old paintings and pictures behind decent size pieces of glass.

Last time I got a clear perspex that was 1000mmx800mm it was $100.

Peter

This is for a picture frame or a frame such as for sports memorabilia - not doors and windows.

The safety factor is only for idiots dropping it on themselves.... otherwise its for dust.

Of note, I emailed every single glazier in Canberra with my needs, being specific and telling them what it was for, allowing them to supply what ever they wanted..... zero responses.

Zero.

It's been almost a week.

Originally Posted by Evanism

This is for a picture frame or a frame such as for sports memorabilia - not doors and windows.

The safety factor is only for idiots dropping it on themselves.... otherwise its for dust.

Of note, I emailed every single glazier in Canberra with my needs, being specific and telling them what it was for, allowing them to supply what ever they wanted..... zero responses.

Zero.

It's been almost a week.

i will pm you with a suggestion


regards david