Thread: too cold to glue up

Glue indoors or a heater for your workshop

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Originally Posted by blackjaffa

Glue indoors or a heater for your workshop

It would take too long to set up a big enough space in the shed. I have a space set up on the back deck where it is usually about 15 degrees and sunny by now.

I can't win! Its now afternoon and the temperature has DROPPED to 6.4.

Move to the gold coast min of 20°

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If ya didn't live here Doug, what would you complain about? Melbourne is great weather at the moment - only lost 1 day this year to rain!! (Bad point to that - I haven't had any shed days coz I haven't been home early).

Glue up - is that serious work bench plans coming to fruition?

Originally Posted by Gabriel

Glue up - is that serious work bench plans coming to fruition?

Laminating up the main part of the benchtop.

Originally Posted by doug3030

What a waste of a morning.

I have a big glue-up to do and it is still too cold at nearly midday.

6.7 degrees outside and the chalk point of Titebond 3 is 8.3333 degrees.

Lucky I am not using Titebond 2 or it might not happen at all today.

How did I finish up living in Melbourne?

Because you car broke down in Melbourne due to the cold and it would not restart

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Use polyurethane, it's not temperature sensitive.

Originally Posted by doug3030

How did I finish up living in Melbourne?

Punishment for something in a past life...

Originally Posted by blackjaffa

Move to the gold coast min of 20°

I'd rather go back to Darwin thanks.

Originally Posted by elanjacobs

Use polyurethane, it's not temperature sensitive.

Polyurethane is too messy and besides I want the bench to outlast me.

Originally Posted by Chief Tiff

Punishment for something in a past life...

No, probably in this life. Melbourne is ok when daylight saving is on.

Anyway, I just got home from a medical appointment and it's 12 degrees on the back deck.

I better go and get the glue on this bench top so I can do some joinery on it tomorrow, if it's not raining.

Cheers

Doug

Once you get to know how much to use, PU isn't much messier than PVA. As for outlasting you, PU will be fine; it's waterproof, thermally stable to over 100° and resistant to most solvents except the really nasty ones (like MEK)

A well-known timber company found out about gluing in low temperatures a few years ago. They decided they could finger-joint off-cuts to make longer 3x2s. Trouble was, the first lot they tried, they tried to make in Tumut in winter. The PVA glue wasn't the same quality as Titebond, & had a higher chalk point.

It seemed like a good idea at the time.

Jazzy69 asked for pictures:

Here is the section I laminated up this afternoon. There are two similar sections that will be laminated together to form the main part of the top and a shorter section along with a doghole row to complete the top, less the endcaps, vises and tool tray.

here is the picture:

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There will not be any more pictures. I would have loved to have done a full bench build WIP in the Workbench subforum, but with the way things are currently done around here at the moment, I know that this would cause me more grief than it is worth.

For a long time I thought it was just me that was being affected but I am now aware of several other members who have quit the forum completely or just stopped posting.

If the situation improves I may reconsider. I am taking photos as I go along anyway fr my own benefit.

Hopefully the members in Melbourne can see the completed bench at my Open Shed Day in October. See Doug3030's Open Shed Day 2017.

Cheers

Doug

Originally Posted by elanjacobs

Once you get to know how much to use, PU isn't much messier than PVA. As for outlasting you, PU will be fine; it's waterproof, thermally stable to over 100° and resistant to most solvents except the really nasty ones (like MEK)

Thanks for that Elan, but I researched glue along with everything else prior to commencing and have bought a 3.857 litre (1 gallon) bottle of Titebond III which should see the project through. I have done glueups three days straight and my hands are still white. A little bit of lanolin cream each evening stops them drying out and cracking. I probably should be doing that in the winter here anyway.

As for how much glue to use, with a gallon there I would rather slap it on and let it squeeze out and know that it is not dry than mess about trying to minimise squeezeout and finish up with a weak joint.

Cheers

Doug