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    Default Concealed hinge for sliding draw cupboard.

    I have built a laundry cupboard with sliding wire baskets and a door to keep little children away. Can anyone please recommend a concealed hinge that will allow the wire basket to slide out of the carcase without hitting the cupboard door.

    Most of the hinges that I have seen actually have hinged edge of the door swing inwards when opening, reducing the opening space by about 10mm.

    regards,
    Jill

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    If you want to keep the kiddys out I can't help with the hinges but fake spiders and the threat of a size 11 in the back of the pants work at my house.

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    yeah, but I can't do that to my grandkids ages ranging 18 months - 7 yrs

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    I saw your other post about piano hinges and if these two threads relate to the same issue, I see your problem...

    Normally with sliding baskets, a cleat of wood is fitted to the side of the cupboard to pack it out so that it will clear the hinges and the door (basket narrower than opening). However if the cupboard is already built and the basket fitted then that cannot be done.

    You still might be able to use the 180 degree concealed hinges provided you can place them above/below and in between the basket(s) where they won't interfere with the sliding of the baskets. If this will not work then it looks like you might have to use the piano hinge. Screws into the face of MDF hold well but real problems into edges (see your other thread)

    When our kitchen was done 16 years ago by a "professional" he forgot about this issue and had to dismantle the cabinet and widen it to allow for the hinges and the sliding baskets!

    Hope this helps,

    Chipman

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    thanks for this reply, chipman. Yes, the threads are related, all to do with a laundry cupboard that I have already made for the sliding baskets.

    I only discovered the problem with the door restricting the opening when I went to fit the concealed hinges I bought - just as well I tried them out on a sample piece first, not having installed concealed hinges before.

    So I bought a Forstner bit to go with my new Hitachi drill press, and learnt a few things there too, about making sure the hinges are installed straight, and finding the pointy end of the Forstner bit slightly penetrated the 15mm thick laminated MDF when I was removing a 10.5mm deep hole for the hinge.

    What a learning experience this project has been

    kind regards,

    Jill

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    As I have said so many times before contact Ray at http://elraco.com.au/index.php I am certain he can suggest something. He is extremely helpful. He solvered a prblem for me that no-one else could work out. His prices are extremely good too.
    Maybe have a look at this one?
    http://elraco.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=3655
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    thanks wolffie, will contact Ray. The problem is that I need a hinge such when the door is open, the interior surface of the carcase side and the inside of the door are in perfect alignment ( ie in the same vertical plane). All the European concealed hinges I have seen to date, the alignment of the open door ( innner surface) is about 8mm inside the alignment of the inner surface of the carcass side.

    kind regards,
    Jill
    Last edited by Dengue; 6th September 2008 at 06:54 PM. Reason: clarity

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    Jill
    I know exactly which hinges you need
    Now, all I have to do is find the magazine I saw them in a cupla months ago.
    They are used for cabinets that have sliding out shelves and entertainment units.
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    wolffie do you mean flipper hinges?

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    Jill the euro hinges come in differing offsets, many are adjustable by several mm.
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    Blum make a hinge specifically for this from memory it is called a zero projection hinge

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    I found it
    It was in Shopnotes Issue 88

    I can send you a copy of the article if you are interested.
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    many thanks everyone - looks like zero protrusion hinges is what I need. I have never heard of them before. Appreciate you posting the images, wolffie, thanks very much

    kind regards,

    Jill
    Last edited by Dengue; 7th September 2008 at 05:46 PM. Reason: typo

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