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24th September 2007, 11:12 PM #1
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help identifying a joinery gadget
G'day all,
I'm building an arcade machine (a cocktail cabinet, like the ones you'd see with those old hourglass stools at the local takeaway shop), but am building out of timber to match the rest of our decor. It struck me a few days ago, that I've not planned for how to attach the control panels to the cabinet itself. The panels themselves are just boxes with an open back, which would face into the cabinet. Basically, I'm looking for a way to join two bits of 20mm ply in a T formation (ie, perpendicular), with no visible join. The catch is, I need to be able to detach for repairs etc.
Years ago, I bought a crappy desk from A-Mart, which had a keyboard tray.. the side walls of the keyboard tray had a short round/cylindrical black plastic "lug", embedded into the timber, and a hole drilled into the top. You push the side wall up into position, and when the screw is in place, you turn the lug thing with a flat blade screwdriver(, or in my case, a butter knife because it was closer), and the lug locks the join tight.
I guess from a woodworking perspective, these joins are kinda sacrilegious, but hey, I'm also using t-moulding :P
Does anyone know what I'm babbling about here (what are they called, where can I buy, etc)? or perhaps suggest an alternative method?
Cheers,
Brett
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24th September 2007, 11:39 PM #2
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Gday Brett, the fastener you are referring to is a type of flatpack connector.
With more normal workshop gear to hand, I reckon pocket hole joinery would be better.
Maybe look at a Kreg jig or a cheaper generic jobbie.
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25th September 2007, 12:22 AM #3
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G'day Sean,
Ahh legendary, thanks mate. that at least gives me something to search for!
I've got a kreg jig (I can now call myself a carpenters ????) and used it to make the panel itself (and the rest of the cabinet), but as you can see from the photos (ignore the shoddy workmanship, this one is only a mockup), unless I use plugs or putty, I don't really have anywhere I can use a pocket hole join (without it being visible)..
A bit of foresight would've prevent this of course.. ah well, live & learn
Thanks again!
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25th September 2007, 02:24 AM #4
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The proper name for the "gadget" is a knockdown fitting. Try here
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25th September 2007, 06:41 AM #5
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Ahh, thanks Harry, thats exactly what I was babbling about - I owe you a beer!The proper name for the "gadget" is a knockdown fitting. Try here
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Brett
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25th September 2007, 06:21 PM #6
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Could you maybe drill the pocket holes where they won't be seen, bit hard to see in your pics but on the bottom shelf could you drill them underneath?
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25th September 2007, 06:40 PM #7
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What about keyholes hangers?
Like these
http://www.govart.com/images/hwr_keyhole_hdLG.jpg
How firmly fastened do they need to be? Anchored against movement in what direction(s)?
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Andrew
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25th September 2007, 08:27 PM #8
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25th September 2007, 10:38 PM #9
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Thats definitely an option. The only problem I can foresee with that approach is that the screws will loosen over time if I have to remove the control panels. I'm going to try a low tech approach to start with : a bunch of 90deg brackets with a bolt going through the side of the cabinet, secured with wingnuts. Will give it a shot and report back, hopefully with some more interesting photos.
Originally Posted by scooter
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26th September 2007, 06:02 PM #10
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Unlikely IMO, and less so if joints are glued as well. Screwing into ply will give you a good strong joint. Originally Posted by benziehammer
My router table carcase is made from 32mm HMR chipboard pocket screwed together with no glue, is a few years old now, seen a fair bit of use & plenty of moving around and is still very sound.
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