Thread: Dark Paint Voids Warranties

[QUOTE=Stubchain;1020571]
I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever heard of this type of issue regarding paint colours.
It now makes me wonder what else I don't know QUOTE]

That's the beauty of sites like the Woodworking Forums which tap into the collective knowledge. Put that together with a group of people who don't mind sharing what they know and we have a wonderful asset. I never fail to learn something new each time I sign on.

you didn't say which type of door it is.I would guess that it is a hollow core door and if you have a look what they are made from it is cardboard and ply. IMO they should be used inside, a hollow core external door is made from cardboard and water resistant ply.
I think the door should have been solid core which would give it a better chance, but as I said in my previous post go with solid timber door. The color of the house isn't dark but it is dark enough to ruin the door.
btw I spent 6 years as a door hanger
les

Big Shed ....yes I was referring to a timber door. I put up a door for my brother a few weeks ago and he went to fibreglass coated door, because the framed door had let go, and even they are not warranted in dark colours.

Rhys

Pure physics tells you if you have a door with the sun on it you could have 40 or 50 degrees difference in both sides. If you reflect the sun you will reduce the problem. The worst door would be matt black and the best gloss white. If your door is failing again, you have to think perhaps you have a problem with what you are doing. The guy building the doors knows it will continue to fail put in that situation and is now trying to escape. Its easy to lay blame but that will not solve your problem.

Are you telling me that we should have a cigarette type warning on every can of paint sold in Aus "Do not use dark colours on North, East or West facing doors!"

What Im trying to tell you if you have piece of wood at 70 deg on one side and 20 on the other the door will twist. If the sun then goes behind clouds for a few minutes the door cools and comes back. The result is like bending a piece of wire, sooner or later it will fail. Now what you do with that information is for you to decide, its physics, its nature. So regardless of what it says on the can, man can not stop nature so osculare pultem meam.

Diabolus fecit, ut id facerem.

Originally Posted by Stubchain

The door, well doors as this is the second one that has cracked were primed correctly. I don't think there are any problems with getting it replaced again. I suppose my concern would be getting another door and it happening again.

The builder is ultimately responsible so I would think he would try another make.

I still say it is a shoddy design flaw, bad manufacturing technique or faulty materials (glue). I will in future be very careful to avoid this door manufacturer from now on, and I'll tell anyone I know.

Doors are built to a price and both major Australian manufacturers - Corinthian and Hume have an extensive range of doors.
From doors with an MDF skin and hoeycomb or eggshell core with quite narrow stiles and rails through to solid MDF core skinned with a Meranti veneer and solid timber stiles and rails to a full on joinery door.

The manufacturers concern about consumers avoiding painting in dark colours and including a get out of jail clause is real but more akin to cupping and warping issues with the door than cracking of joints.
Sounds like you have a full joinery door - if the crack is where a stile meets a rail.
If that is the case, then we are dealing with faulty glue - not dark paint.

I can see your frustration with that door Stub, how bad is the crack?

Mostly we used to build houses with eaves, now we mostly don't,
so aside from saving a few bob on building the thing,
the end result is hotter in summer, colder in winter,
oh yeah ...and exploding front doors

Originally Posted by rrobor

What Im trying to tell you if you have piece of wood at 70 deg on one side and 20 on the other the door will twist. If the sun then goes behind clouds for a few minutes the door cools and comes back. The result is like bending a piece of wire, sooner or later it will fail. Now what you do with that information is for you to decide, its physics, its nature. So regardless of what it says on the can, man can not stop nature so osculare pultem meam.

Diabolus fecit, ut id facerem.

Not going at you mate, going at the parent states response to anything that doesnt go the way certain types want. Metal doors will solve the problem as well. Underfoot has the best response as far as I can tell.

"osculare pultem meam" now thats a classic,