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    Hi Ron,
    If you're making your own tenons out of scrap, there is no real cost for making the handles. In fact you can mix and match timbers to your hearts content.
    Routing trenches, through mortises and rebates does not put any real strain on the tool. I'll show you while you're down here.

    Regards,

    Rob

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    LGS, I understand

    The comment about Dominos as drawer pulls was a failed attempt at humour ... the idea of several Domino machines plastered over a piece of furniture, in the same way that IT geeks (self included) sometimes include bits of old computers in their work.

    Actually, I found one more use for my Dowelmax last night ... I used it to hold down a piece of paper when it was a bit breezy with the shed door open. That makes three. *grin*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Dunn View Post
    Lignum, some of those uses remind me of the old saying:

    "When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"

    And I know it is lawyer-speak, but I'm sure the instructions have big disclaimers about using the Domino for anything other than those described therein. I'd be concerned about the warranty implications of rebating, for example, with its continual sideways stress on the tool.
    Not one of the above would be a concern to Festool. Festool have been including all kinds of uses from users all over the world, they encourage it. Nothing I will ever do will harm my Domino. I am a stickler for looking after my tools/machines (ask your host next week)

    And what is so unusual in any of the above that would warrant you coming up with
    "When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" “ That puzzles me, after all the thread title wants input from Domino users. But when its offered you seem to be delighted in shooting it down

    And what about Table Saws, Band Saws routers etc, Have people explored new exciting uses for them over the years? If all woodworkers took you “hammer” analogy then this craft would be all the poorer for it. Im not interested staying in the past, I would rather push the boundaries and explore. If I had a Dowelmax I would do the same with that. .

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    Sorry, Lignum, the intended tone of my post didn't come across ... it was meant to be light-hearted.

    I do recognise that there are things a Domino can do that a Dowelmax can't. I've mentioned a few times that I was really impressed by an article I saw somewhere about a folding dining table, and I'm sure there are lots more.

    I didn't mean to argue about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Dunn View Post
    Actually, I found one more use for my Dowelmax last night ... I used it to hold down a piece of paper when it was a bit breezy with the shed door open. That makes three. *grin*

    Every now and again i use mine as an emergency plane when im out on a job. The front of the base has a sharp and honed bevel, and I just remove the fence and use it. I don’t get many good slices (around 15-20) as its obviously not tool steel. But dose the trick for that odd emergency.

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    Hi Ron,
    Sorry for missing what was, in retrospect, quite a funny play on words. I guess we Dominites are a little sensitive. Comes from the constant defence mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGS View Post
    Hi Ron,
    Sorry for missing what was, in retrospect, quite a funny play on words. I guess we Dominites are a little sensitive. Comes from the constant defence mode.
    "a little sensitive" yes, also a little tendency to understate things
    You're too subtle Ron, they didn't even realise it was bait when they tasted it

    You need to become more smugly superior like me LGS, then you don't feel the need to answer some of the posts, even when they have a point.
    Last edited by Groggy; 18th March 2010 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lignum View Post
    Every now and again i use mine as an emergency plane when im out on a job.......
    In fact, the dowelmax seems to be so goood, I'm gonna get one and use my Domino as a handpalne on a permanent basis. Thanks for that Lignum, you're my hero.

    Les

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy View Post
    "a little sensitive" yes, also a little tendency to understate things
    Your too subtle Ron, they didn't even realise it was bait when they tasted it

    You need to become more smugly superior like me LGS, then you don't feel the need to answer some of the posts, even when they have a point.
    LGS is correct. We are a defensive lot. Ever since it was released their has been constant criticism about it, and its always for some reason centred on price. Im not immune to that as my first response in the Domino users thread was to purchase a $600 biscuit joiner and with the money saved buy 2 dozen slabs of VB

    So right from the beginning the majority of times we mention the Domino, responses are often accompanied with sarcastic jibes. Its bizarre, a few years down the track nothings changed.

    When its pointed out its not a standard joining tool, they just ignore those facts. This thread is a great example, it wanted comparison but dismissed it when offered. It appears to be set up as Domi bait right from the beginning. I just offered a dozen uses other than the standard, and that was overlooked for some witty response. We have been told over and over how the Dowelmax stacks up againsed the Domino, even at times its better, but when “other” Domino uses are mentioned, they dont want to know about them.

    If we had shut up and not taken the bait and defended the Domi and anti M&T joinery, this thread would have died after 20 posts.

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    Lignum, may I have your address?

    I'd like to send you a packet of condoms, so that we don't see a bunch of little Lig-minos running around the streets. I'm sure it offers a better personal relationship than any dowelling jig.

    (seriously, no-one ignored the dozen uses you raised ... just that most of them were raised hundreds of messages ago by LGS ... and I don't remember anyone doubting them at that time, either)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Dunn View Post
    (seriously, no-one ignored the dozen uses you raised ... just that most of them were raised hundreds of messages ago by LGS ... and I don't remember anyone doubting them at that time, either)
    Sorry Ron but i didnt see where LGS mentioned-

    Decorative mitre corner splines.
    Dovetail sockets.
    Cabinet handles.
    Door and drawer pulls.
    Through tenon rebated drawers.
    Breadboard end joining tool.
    Traditional tenons. (not lose tenons, but real ones).
    Marking and measuring gauges.

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    US-Oz, have you advertised your extras for sale? Might as well let everyone know you've got them.

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    Hey, Lignum, looks like Domino users are starting to see the light:

    "http://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=4333.msg47856;topicseen#msg47856"

    One more thing to add to your list of capabilities ... somewhere between thickness-planer and fairy-floss-spinner.

    *lol*

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    Now that's what I call a Cunning Plan, m'lord......they won't suspect a thing !

    Why can't sophisticated power tools be like digital cameras - if you want to add new features or tweak existing functions you just download new software for the gadget.

    "Yeah mate, I'm running Domino 2.1 with no problems, and just downloaded the beta FestDowel 1.1 to give it a try"

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