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29th April 2011, 08:36 PM #1New Member
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Dovetail woes
I just raided the evilbay for a dovetail jig...Ryobi DT330...1/2" template. Pretty simple pretty basic, anyway it came with a worn bit and the guide. So scored a new bit...1/2" 14 degrees and had to make a new guide as the one supplied wouldn't fit my router, which has a follower dia of 12.2mm. Now, spent nearly two days frigging around and there's no way the pins and groove will fit, the dimension across the top of the pins 15-16mm at the recommended cutter depth. I'm joining 19mm timber and I'd like a decent depth of dovetail. At first I thought the 1/2" cutter was too small, but now I'm thinking it is the guide bush, as the grooves in the template are 12.2mm it just goes straight in and out. I found a manual for this jig which is very similar...
http://pics.woodstockint.com/manuals/d2796_m.pdf
......the guide there is 11.1mm.
Where am I going wrong?
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30th April 2011, 12:57 AM #2
the type of jig you have is designed to be used with a particular sizes of DT bit -- in your case 1/2" not 12mm or 13mm both of which might be sold as 1/2", so please check
I'm not sure what you mean by "had to make a new guide"
the type of jig you have is designed for use with a particular size guide bush, or one that is smaller
if, as you say you have made a new guide (set of Fingers ?) you will have to tune the router / guide / cutter combo (including the material stops) till you find the appropriate depth for the cutter
potentially a very time consuming and frustrating process
is there anyway you can fit a smaller guide bush to your router so that you can use the original fingers?regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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30th April 2011, 09:15 AM #3New Member
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Ooops sorry for the terminology confusion, the "guide" is the part attached to the router and the one that came with the jig wouldn't fit onto my router. So I had another made with the same dia "guide" which was 12.2mm. The fingers on the template are 12.7mm (1/2") wide and the slot is 12.3mm. From what I've seen on the net that bush (guide) dia is 7/16" ie 11.1mm. So there is a bit more movement in the template slots to clear more material, It is such a standard jig template I was wondering if someone can confirm the correct dia of the guide. I definitely have a 1/2" cutter
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30th April 2011, 10:35 AM #4
I've used the sort of DT guide you have
the guide bush should be a sloppy fit within the fingers -- you need to consciously run the router on the right and left side of each slot to get the right width of cut
the instructions you linked to uses a 7/16" guide bush because -- I think -- 7/16" is the smallest finger template available for the jig, and using a 7/16" (= 11.1125mm) guide bush means once set up the router doesn't need adjusting -- many people leave a router permanently set up for use in that sort of jig
as noted, the depth of cut needs to be exactly set to the recommended value -- often an imperial rule is invaluable as these jigs are often made for the US market.
BTW, in US catalogues you will often come across router bits measured in 64ths of an inch -- the yanks do this to avoid quoting the exact dimension in mm
I can think of several "causes" of your problem,
but initially I'm thinking that the jig is not holding your test pieces squarely
can you post pictures of
1) your set up
2) your problemregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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30th April 2011, 10:48 AM #5New Member
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Thanks Ian, I will take some pics, have to go to work....I'm pretty sure the guide bush is the prob, I've hand filed the dia down a bit and gave it a quick run and I can see there's more of a match between the grooves and the pins (tails) All settings are as spec for a 1/2" pitch template with a 1/2" bit
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30th April 2011, 08:25 PM #6New Member
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Ok finally made progress, I filed away at the bush until it was 11.1mm - 7/16" and low and behold the pieces are going together
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