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Thread: to edge or not to edge...
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20th October 2005, 06:43 PM #1
to edge or not to edge...
Am about to embark on making the wife a extendable table for her to use as a cutting table (for sewing etc).
Finally decided to go the cheap option and just use Melamime surface with a pine frame. Melamime gives a solid smooth and hard finish for her to run scissors up and shouldnt scratch too much.
Anyways, basically I want the top to be something like a 600 * 1300 centre panel, with two 500 * 1300 panels that are hinged and can flip up when needed to join smoothly with the centre panel.
Now, while in the up position, I intend to have them supported, however, when the sides are down, the weight will be held by the hinges alone. I am thinking I will get some of those full length hinges (ie will run the whole length of the table).
My question is, is the melamime and chipboard going to be strong enough to support and hold the weight of the side panels while it is in the down position? or should I edge the melamine in a hardwood and glue and screw this with 50mm screws and then attach the hinges to the hardwood?.
My gut instinct is that the screws in the melamine will tear out over time and use as the sides are raised and lowered, putting stress on the screws.
If anyone with experience in this could give me some advice it would be much appreciated.
cheers
Redback
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20th October 2005, 09:38 PM #2Originally Posted by Redback
If 'twere to be more decorative I'd suggest different hinges and a slightly different construction that "hides" the top of the flaps when they're in the down position, but that's a whole other thread in itself...
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20th October 2005, 09:47 PM #3
I tend to agree with skewchidamn , the screws for piano hinges are quite narrow gauge and could pull out of the chipboard fairly easily imho . Maybe better to edge it as you suggested with some hardwood and screw the hinges into that . Another option might be the standard melamine specific ( Euro ?) hinges . That is an option I would consider .
Regards
Rickuhm , where am I ?
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20th October 2005, 10:00 PM #4
What about this
My suggestion:
I would 'frame' each piece of melamine in the pine as you say.
Then I would join the flaps with the piano hinge on the bottom, to achieve a flat top. Something like this:Greatest Movie Quote Ever: "Its good to be the king!"____________________________
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20th October 2005, 10:05 PM #5
Gidday Redback
If your keen enough theres always a way. I think Epoxy is the Answer & would get onto something like a west system EPoxy.
I
had success reinforcing Melamine and Mdf with whats basically an epoxy Banding (See Pic)
I'd do something similar to this (ensuring its flat). I'd pre-drill holes for some piano Hinge (Oversize) then fill with Epoxy. Its critical to let the Epoxy cure don't touch it for a week.
After this i'd pre drill with a small diameter drill bit in the epoxy wells then drive in some good quality chipboard screws. You might be pleasantly suprised how well this works Redback.
I've done something similar with hanging a door that was doing some serious floor scraping with seasonal movement...............havent had a problem since & the hinges arn't even morticed. This was done with a lower strength 5 min Epoxy.
....................Might be worth a go!!!!!Just Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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20th October 2005, 11:04 PM #6
Thanks guys,
Gazza, yeah thats what I had basically decided, nice drawing though
what did you use?
The epoxy idea sounds interesting, certainly something to think about.
Again thanks for the feedback
Redback
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20th October 2005, 11:16 PM #7Originally Posted by Redback
So where are the piccies of the birthday jewellery box for your better half?Greatest Movie Quote Ever: "Its good to be the king!"____________________________
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21st October 2005, 03:15 PM #8
made my first training box out of pine over the weekend. Not too impressed with my first effort, so certainly not posting it. Might need to do a couple more before I try it on that banksia, camphor, teak etc that I have planned to use!.
Decided to splash out a buy a set of box cutting bits from Gifkins. I can justify the expense to the missus because its to make her something
(of course she can't know about them till after her birthday!)
Hopefully they will turn up today for a feast of box making over the weekend.
cheers
Redders
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