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    Quote Originally Posted by Beardy View Post
    You guys use different terminology to us, it is the horizontal trimmer piece that is cut between the studs
    I'll have to roll out the noggin word to keep things interesting.

    noggin

    noun nog·​gin | \ ˈnä-gən


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    Definition of noggin

    1 : a small mug or cup

    2 : a small quantity (such as a gill) of drink

    3 : a person's head




    P.S., do you do single or double top plates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob streeper View Post

    P.S., do you do single or double top plates?
    Single on non-load bearing walls. Double on load bearing walls.

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    Interesting, double on all walls here (residential frame). Another term for noggin is strut. A vertical, as under or above a window frame rough out is a 'cripple'. I have some old framing books that I now want to dig into...
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    What you call a cripple in a wall frame we call a Jack Stud. A rafter that does not go from the wall plate to the ridge is a cripple rafter.
    The reason we don’t have a double top plate on non load bearing walls is so that the truss does not touch it and only sits on its designed bearing walls

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbfisher View Post
    Single on non-load bearing walls. Double on load bearing walls.
    If you use a decent framing company they use solid 90mm thick top plates on load bearing walls
    The person who never made a mistake never made anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwbuild View Post
    If you use a decent framing company they use solid 90mm thick top plates on load bearing walls
    What do they make the plate out of Ray?

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    90x90 MGP10
    The person who never made a mistake never made anything

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    Not Noggin....it's Nogging

    nogging
    /ˈnɒɡɪŋ/
    nounBUILDING
    brickwork in a timber frame.
    a horizontal piece of wood fixed to a framework to strengthen it.
    plural noun: noggings

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    Innovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.

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    Lurching precariously back to the original thread...

    There is another reason not to consider that American product and its claims regarding holding power, in the US their plasterboard is usually 1/2” thick. In Aus we only use 3/8”.

    As everyone else has said, either use a longer rail or mount it on a piece of timber/metal that can be fitted to the studs, or bite the bullet and cut into the wall to fit noggings. The next person who lives in that house might be a 150kg blob... with a good lawyer.
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    29.08.19 - Update: ended up going with the easiest option and that was mounting the rail directly into the posts in the wall.
    The uprights are not directly across from the other wall but close enough.
    Next up was to install a disability toilet suite to assist with getting up and sitting down, a must for anyone getting on in years.

    Toilet missing - 16.08.19a.jpg
    Last edited by Specialized29er; 29th August 2019 at 11:34 PM. Reason: Pitcure laying on its side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialized29er View Post
    The uprights are not directly across from the other wall but close enough.
    Might need a placard warning users of the alignment issue, don't want any accidents.
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