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Thread: Fixing ripples in veneer
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6th July 2012, 09:28 PM #1Novice
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Fixing ripples in veneer
Hey guys, I recently created my veneer design for my year 12 hsc major and hit a major problem when gluing it down. The day after gluing, when I took off the weights I had on it, I discovered large ripples all over the design, which I'm fairly sure is due to using too much glue and not having even pressure. Do you guys know any ways to fix this problem?. I've already tried ironing and clamping small areas with varied success and slicing the ripples open and squeezing the excess glue out with no success so I'm pretty desperate for a better solution. Any ideas are much appreciated.
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6th July 2012, 11:35 PM #2
What glue did you use to glue it down with?
Waht is your substrate?
A few pics as well will always help.
Pete
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7th July 2012, 05:10 PM #3
You may have to start again , the timber veneer has taken a set, and with the glue underneath hardening & setting I do not like your chances of rescuing the job.
As has been said some PICTURES will help us to give a better answer.
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12th July 2012, 02:57 PM #4Novice
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I used PVA and glued it down to particle board. To be honest, if i took a picture I dont think it would help because you wouldnt even be able to see the ripples, you can only feel them.
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12th July 2012, 03:06 PM #5
I have removed bubbles in marquetry pictures successfully before, and the technique used may work for you...but no promises.
I pricked the bubble with a pin, so that air inside could escape. Then used a hottish iron on top, with a slightly damp tea towel between veneer and iron, until the veneer was hot enough to soften/reactivate the pva. Then rub down with a wooden block (fair pressure), until everything cooled down again.
You may need multiple pinholes to release the air in the ripples, and there is a good chance that you may actually form a crease in the veneer. However, it could be worth a try.Last edited by chrisb691; 12th July 2012 at 05:40 PM. Reason: spelling
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12th July 2012, 03:43 PM #6Intermediate Member
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I heard using an iron always works
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12th July 2012, 04:44 PM #7Senior Member
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I had this problem recently, first time I've use veneer too
Is it caused by too much glue? I used Titebond
Probably try the iron thing noted, but I found a light sanding with my ROS on slowest speed got it more or less totally flat....didn't go through it which I thought it might. Might not be good enough for a HSC project though.
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12th July 2012, 09:01 PM #8Novice
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Im pretty sure its been caused by too much glue rather than air pockets, so im not sure if the pin hole trick would work.
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21st July 2012, 06:51 PM #9Intermediate Member
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"The day after gluing, when I took off the weights I had on it, I discovered large ripples all over the design, which I'm fairly sure is due to using too much glue and not having even pressure."
You did not mention the pressure. You need around 4-8kg per square cm! I bet you did not have that. (for a 100x100mm surface you need 500kg) That is the main cause of veneering failure.
You need big clams if your work is big, it needs pressure in the middle as well. You cannot substitute with corners clamped.
To fix it is depends on how bad it is. Maye better to start it again.
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