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    Default Sick of seeing a lumpa 4B2 get a 4inch nail beaten into it and gettin told it’s art?!

    Sick of seeing a lump of 4by2 get a 4inch nail beaten into it and being told it’s art?

    Hi everyone - I hope this is the right forum - if not I am happy to be told and redirected.

    I am keen to know what we all think of the idea of an Australian Woodworkers TV Show, after the spirit of the New Yankee Workshop in some ways.

    I would be very interested in seeing a show made here in Australia, with locally sourced timbers and fittings & hardware/tools/machinery that I can actually buy within a reasonable timeframe!

    My particular interest is in recreating/restoring furniture of the following styles:


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    French Provincial (18th-early20thCent.)
    Australian Colonial (18th-early20thCent.)
    Italian Rural (18th-early20thCent.)
    Australian Low-Victorian (not heavily carved and dark)
    18th and 19th Century country British
    Fine Arts and Crafts style
    Period-feel scrubbed pine type furniture of excellent proportions
    Japanese style from the 1800's

    (anyone guess that I like “country”? J )


    I would love to know if members here would be interested in seeing a show of this kind, that demonstrates making pieces in these particular styles. I am envisioning projects that could be completed in one or two weekends, from locally sourced materials, regardless of the viewer’s state or territory. This (and many other advantages) would be achieved through an associated website where members would gain AND share access to worthy suppliers and contacts.

    If anyone is interested in this, I would be keen to hear back either through this group or directly.

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    Do Something totally NEW
    use a 6" nail

    sounds a good idea for an aussie show if it doesnt confine itself to novice stuff only
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    thinking of "gifted amateur or woodie" type person-my subject line may have not been clear, but I HATE home improvement-type shows where a guy grabs a few bits of Radiata (not that there's anything wrong with that) & makes basically a piece of s...t looking thing, then tells us at home its an acceptable solution.

    I'm talking about pieces that makers will enjoy for life and whose children, grandchildren etc will live around, should they choose to.

    RATIONALE: This is something fairly close to my heart as I enjoy living with the pieces I've made & if honest I get a buzz out of visitors commenting that they love them too, so....as I have a range of skills & contacts in the field, I thought it would be good to commence gathering feedback about what people ACTUALLY want to see & would patronise. In this way, we all win - I get to be associated with making beautiful things and the show rates, which is basically all the networks are interested in, and rightly so I guess.

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    Keep it on topic Children.

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    no offence to anyone intended but in my initial post on this topic I asked to be told if it was off-topic or posted into the wrong forum and requested guidance if that was the case.

    Initially I decided to post to this particular area as it says "general woodwork" and would, I thought, be of most interest to all woodworkers.

    , is your directive to "keep it on topic children" because it is an inappropriate thread?

    My thinking was that gathering information/ feedback from those who make things from wood and care deeply about it would be the best way to set about creating a program of greatest value.....

    apologies again if I have posted outside the guidelines - please advise a better forum

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    The problem is getting someone in television land who is interested in producing & backing such a show.

    The only reason that norm is where he is today is because some producer with a reputation & some cash happened to like the idea.

    At the moment TV land is only interested in reality tv. ( now theres an oxymoron for you)

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    (apologies again if off topic)

    good point, though within the layers of crapTV, there are a proliferation of home improvement shows (also often crap, but some ok) out there like

    The Block, Hot Property/Auctions/better homes and gardens/all those garden-makeover shows, the Mitre 10 one, whatever its called. Add Pay TV and the emergence in 2004 of interactive digital TV with an additional hundred channels and you have a bunch of execs screaming "how do we fill the channels with stuff and still meet the local content laws?"

    Being a "woodie" myself and having designed,made and sold pieces over a period of several years, I have a reasonable feel for what my customers liked, and that was: "anything country". Also, as I have contacts in the TV industry at the levels needed, I felt the time is right to go for it and get woodworkers in Oz together and support creating a show that would appeal to them as well as the general public, who after all are the ones buying.

    just a thought
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    Gooday.

    Np probs.

    Steve it is in the right place, it was starting to stray from the topic.

    I have to agree that some of these lifestyle shows are very detrimental to woodies in general and in some cases have forced the closure of some businesses.

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    Seriph1,

    I don't watch a lot of TV (except cartoons and kids movies).
    However I would make the effort to see an Aussie NYW style show. Especially if it is backed up with video/dvd copies of the episodes and well drawn plans / cutlist / layout etc. These would of course be at an extra cost, or put the plans for free in AWW (or like) and have the video/dvd at an extra cost.
    It would have to be cross promoted with whatever pulp DIY show the network is producing to get the general public interested. But if you look at the numbers that attended the Working with wood expo's there is a ready build audience to start you off.

    upshot - I'm all for it.
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    Dave-You got it in, mate! We dont watch telly because its so much rubbish - I'm thinking of a quality series driven by designs that are true heirlooms though achievable in reasonable timeframe with available tools and reasonable skills.

    DVDs would be available, and include further info that doesnt have time to appear in the show.

    website would have a bunch of great free info, for example, links to here etc.

    Woodie's could direct the program and web content based on their needs & desires. I know it's a huge task and I've no intention of doing it alone, but lots of things have been achieved by small groups of people getting off their "anatomies" and moving forward...end of sermon

    youre spot on about the Timber & working with wood show - have attended since the first and love it. Each year I think "man there are a LOT of people into this" wood is something in humanity's DNA and I would love to be one person who fosters our return to actually making things for ourselves!
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    Hey, if you want to be able to view real woodies making real stuff, why bother making TV execs even richer ???

    $98 for a Logitech webcam from K-mart, and there you are, broadcasting your own content to the whole world!

    Now that Jenni-cam has shutdown, there's a gaping void that needs to be filled!

    I've never yet seen Norm, but from my time here, I think we could schedule the following:

    Jig-making
    Make your workshop look like an Operating Theatre
    How to Paint Things Triton Orange
    Dust Collection (a close-up of a cyclone might make a good screen saver?). CycloneCam - just patented )
    Design Your Own Drill
    Plus How To Make Lots of Things Out Of Wood.

    Cheers,
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    are you sure youre not a little further north than central coast?



    like perhaps


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    How 'bout getting Russell Coight from "All Aussie Adventures" to be the presenter? You could call it Fair Dinkum Aussie Workshop.

    He's even had a go at woodwork himself. Did anyone see his camp stool?

    'Now folks, the table saw can be a very dangerous tool in the shed if you don't watch what you're doing. Fortunately, I've got some safety tips for you that will ... '

    [ZING - Sound of saw cutting through flesh and bone]

    [Swearing, Russell walks off camera, pan back to saw where left hand with wrist watch is sitting next to still spinning blade]

    I'd watch that!

    Sorry Steve, it's a great idea if it can be done. All TV shows start out with an idea. Good luck...
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    How about getting Triton to promote it they have made a lot of money from the woodies

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