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    Quote Originally Posted by robyn2839 View Post
    if you think it would be better for cutting on the right,,how would you hold the peice you are cutting off?
    or does it just fall on the floor taking tearouts with it . just my theory. bob
    That's why you use a bench hook.

    I put things in the vise when I'm cross cutting but either I'm not making a through cut, or I don't care if the last bit snaps off. Otherwise, I lay things flat on the bench and use a bench hook or dog. Or I use the SCMS or table saw
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobTro View Post
    Hi Blackadder,

    So ya gonna av a go with the bench hooks...

    ...

    And in case ya didn't catch on, I'm in a bit of an odd mood...Have fun

    Rob
    G'Day Rob,

    I hope it's not a mood over my naivety.

    On the tear-out front, I learned how to get around this from a smart old man once ... when you mark out your cut, transfer the line to the bottom side of the timber and using a steel rule and a sharp blade (Stanley knife works for me) cut a fairly deep slice along the line. This also helps when doing your final cleanup. Oh yes, the other thing is not to have too much off-cut, if it's more than about 200mm, use a stand on the off-cut side so it does not drop.


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    I didn't read all three pages, so someone may have said this already, in which case I'm just saying it again...

    One of the original purposes for a front vise, and still one of the most common, is to hold a piece of stock for edge planing. A long board - say, a cabinet side - clamped in a front vise will normally be clamped toward one end of the board. The act of planing sets up some vibration in the board. Planing toward the clamped end of the stock dampens the vibrations; planing toward the loose end accentuates them. Thus, a front vise should normally be placed on the bench at the end toward which you plane. Most right-handed folk plane from right to left, making the proper location of the front vise on the left end; opposite for left-handed folk.

    I used my right-handed grandfather's bench (vise on the left) for some years, and I can testify to the problem of planing away from the vise; it used to drive me nuts having the board wiggling around as I planed.

    If you're clamping your boards in your front vise to make cutoff cuts - cross-cutting the board to length - cutting out beyond the left end will let you use your left (free) hand to catch the waste and keep it from peeling splinters off the board as it falls. But I'm with other folks: sawhorses for large work or bench hooks for small work are generally better for holding the stock when cutting. Heck, even putting a couple of bench dogs in for narrow work to push against is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Houghton View Post
    I didn't read all three pages, so someone may have said this already, in which case I'm just saying it again...
    I doubt that many here would have read any of the pages as this thread is 13 years old.

    Rather then going back to the olden days a new thread might be more appropriate as the subject could stand another airing.

    BTW I have one on the left and on the right hand side for convenience but I have never edge planed a long board.


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    Peter, I think that resurrecting old threads is ok if they are the 'permanent' type like the bench thread, for example, or it contains information that is timeless & the new post adds something useful. It keeps the information concentrated in the one spot, which means you are more likely to find it with a search.

    It is, however a good idea to read the thread through to make sure your pearls have not already been cast....

    Cheers,
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    Ian,

    Maybe because of my self imposed hard lock down since February, because of my personal health conditions, I'm getting a bit testy when I read that the post opens with I haven't read what was said before me.

    If you haven't read it why resurrect an 13 years old thread. Just seems very strange to me.

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    Agreed, Peter - I did make that point too.

    Many of the mini-wars that erupt in these pages happen because folks failed to read the full post that ignited their ire, or mis-read them in their hurry.

    Cheers,
    IW

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