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  1. #1
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    Default Getting a TSC10HB off a trailer

    Ok gents. I'm tempted to drive up to Carbatec and pick up a tsc10hb with my trailer. The problem is how to get it off when I get home. Just me - no other humans available.

    Is it possible to dismantle it to more managable sections? The cast iron top for example? is that fully removable - and if so would calibration be wrecked if I take it off?

    Even if I get it delivered I will need to get it to the shed in the back yard myself (across a grass covered yard and around a few corners).

    Suggestions??


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    I unloaded a TC-12 with slider attachment out of a 6 x 4. Basically, we slid it to the back of the trailer until the trailer went vertical. The saw slid down the trailer, trapping the two of us against a bench. After some colourful language we wriggled out and levered the saw backwards until the trailer could be extracted.

    For you though, I suggest you get some car ramps and pull the saw onto them, then slide the saw down the ramps to the ground. Leave the trailer attached to the car!

    Since the TC-12 is much heavier than the TSC10HB, you should be able to manipulate it yourself. The easiest way though, is to hire a car engine lift from Bunnings or similar and use it for the whole task.

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    I didn't have to get mine off a trailer, but I did have to get it dowen three flights of stairs and up one.

    The down was o.k. (just) after I'd removed all the bits and pieces that are in the crate.

    There was no way I was strong enough to get it up the stairs though so I ended up removing the cast-iron top AND the motor which is the heaviest bit.

    It wasn't a big deal to do, although it probably added a couple of hours to the setup time.

    HTH
    Craig

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    Mine was delivered into the garage but needed to be moved into the workshop. I had 2 mates helping but we still took the top of and then using a hand trolley wheeled it into the shop. Bit more work in assembling but easier to move.

    Peter.

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    So....I can't just reverse it in REALLY FAST and hit the brakes?


    Ok - taking the top off is no big deal when it comes to blade alignment. That's great news. I hope I don't have to take the motor out. It doesn't sound like it will be required though.

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    Default I'll give you a hand

    We have often delivered these saws and unloaded them with just two stout planks, the crate can be opened and the heavy cast extension wigs removed to make it a little lighter, then the saw can be easily slid to the ground. Pop into CARBA-TEC in Fyshwick and Andy or I can help you with the delivery.

    Cheers
    Graeme

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    Mate Im sure if you can bargain a bit, they will deliver it to your place. And guess what the driver can act as your mate and help you get it in. Most of the trucks they use have some means of lifting, small crane etc.

    Try this "I'll only buy it if you delivery and put it in place". I've done it before and remember its probably only a matter of organising the blokes they have working at the store to do it.

    Stuff your back and you'll live with it for the rest of your life. Given that your only 35 that leaves a lot of time for further deterioration. By the time your 55, youll be stuffed completely.

    OR JUST HIRE A 25 TONNE CRANE. IT CAN PARK IN YOUR STREET AND PUT IT WHEREVER YOU LIKE. But Im sure the reverse and brake trick will also get it off the trailer.

    Good luck with the saw mate, Im sure you'll be rapped when you get it.

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    Graeme beat me to it.

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    I was calculating how fast I'd have to reverse to get it to slide across the yard straight into the shed.

    Graham, that's damned decent of you but the way I figure it, I'm already getting a great bargain from Carbatec ($95 off regular price) and the fact that I'm still trying to save $75 in delivery (so I can stretch my funds across many more machines to come) shouldn't mean extra work for others.

    I've got lots of sturdy planks around thanks to an upcoming deck project (check my website for pics of my landscaping progress. Not bad for an IT nerd). With the knowledge that the top can be removed without effecting accuracy later, and the fact that others have done similar tasks, I think I'll be good to go.

    I guess that means you can expect me at your store tomorrow morning complete with trailor

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    NightPanther
    You are not the only board member in the ACT. You could always have a sausage sizzle and invite some of them.

    From the web the packed weight is 192Kg, less when opened.
    I have a small back hoe which could lift that weight but I don't know if it will fit in the yard.
    PM me where you are in ACT, I am deep south.
    Dave..

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    Hehehehe - wow. Once again the impressive nature of this community of people has demonstrated itself. I enjoy visiting this board not only for the wealth of information but also because of the positive, constructive and helpful mood that exists within it. Oh - and lets not forget the humor! I still chuckle about the "steel capped thongs" that someone mentioned a while ago.

    Thank you all for the offers but I will give it a go first before I call for help. If the damn thing is too stubborn to get off the trailer then it can damned well wait in the cold until I find some assistance.

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    I've moved some heavy stuff by myself in my time. Apart from planks, the most useful things in my collection are a few pieces of 2" steel water pipe. The ancient Egyptians used rollers and they remain very useful. In really difficult situations a small hydraulic jack on its side works wonders. I had a half cubic meter pottery kiln on a 6 x 4 trailer once. I slid it slowly off the trailer onto the planks and roller system using the jack. Be patient, don't apply the jack to anything that might bend, with out a nice block of wood spreading the pressure.Take it slowly and you shouldn't have a problem.

    Cheers,
    Rob

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    Grab yourself a engine crane, worthy investment.
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    Night Panther,

    I would strongly advise against doing this on your own, the advice on 2" rollers and skids works. I used to work with stone and with carefull placement of skids it is quite easy to move 300kg to 400kg on your own but you do need to know what you are doing. Never get anywhere it can fall on you, never put your self in a position where it can skid or roll in to you which means when getting it off the trailer stay to the side of the boards you skid it off on, not where it can take off and pin you to a wall, bench or floor. If you are on your own and get into trouble the consequences can be severe. If you need to spin it just put two boards about 10" long and 4" or so wide on top of each other and place under the centre of the box and it will spin effortlessly, all of this works better with two, even if its the wife or girlfriend moving the bits for you. Just make sure no hands go under the box, things should be pushed under that way if anything drops you keep your fingers.

    Don't use rollers to get it down any downward slopping surfaces such as skids (boards), a piece of thin ply between the box and skid will give you all the slip you need and greater control. Once on the ground rollers between box and concrete are fine, if moving it across grass put a couple of boards down like railway tracks and put the rollers on those, even broom handle size will do the job.

    The engine crane works, but be carefull with the shape of the box if it swings out to far it can tip the crane forward, but it does take the work out of it. Most likely a trolley can be used although it could be a bit heavy to tilt it back on your own on takeoff.

    In the end if someone offers help the worst thing that can happen is the need to return the favour, which in someways is a two way win.

    John

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    Thumbs up What Harry says, but hire it.

    Do you see that thing that Harry posted a pic of?

    You can hire one for a whole weekend for less than $50.
    That's how I picked up my Vicmarc VL300.
    I picked up the hoist from the hire company, loaded it into the trailer, can be done by one person, & tied it down & headed for where the lathe was stored.
    Unload the hoist, make a rope sling for the machine, push the hoist over it, lift, push to the trailer & lower it into the trailer, the legs of the hoist go straight under the trailer if you are smart enough to miss the wheels.
    Now you load the hoist around & over the machine, it fits, & tie it all down & head for the hills.
    Once at the new home, it helps if you can reverse the trailer into the shed, unload the hoist, pick up the machine, tow trailer out of shed, push machine to new location, lower into place, unhook hoist, load hoist back into trailer & tie it down again.
    On Monday, don't forget to take the hoist back to the hire place.

    Easy....
    Cliff.
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