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    Thanks for sharing the video. It's like a symphony for the eyes. You hear how precise the human hand can be after years of training when listening to all the musicians strike every note correctly, but here you can actually see it.

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    First class workmanship. And welcome to the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liogier View Post
    Thanks a lot to all for these very kind messages. My family know-how has no value unless there is some craftmen around the world able to appreciate this quality.
    I am willing to share and exchange with your community, so please feel free to ask any questions, even the simpliest ones.
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    Liogier.

    Thank you for sharing your valuable time with us. I have a few questions to ask but will limit it to one of my major ones. Now, I am only a raw novice to immediate woodworker but I do like and appreciate fine tools.

    I like to make my own Brass backed dovetail saws with a carved handle. I am also a beginner carver, concentrating at this stage with small items while I gain experience. I also like to make Toys and models. The rasps and riflers I have are truly barbaric, ripping shreds of wood or are so fine that they do not take anything off.

    The one exception is a Nicholson No 50 which I got from America. It is the one made in Brazil and it does a fair job but not outstanding.

    What I would like to know is for the Dovetail Saws of old and for small carvings and toys and models what instrument would you recommend from your range. And also is it possible to order direct from you to post to Australia.

    I would really like to get my hands on a fine Rifler but here in Australia our choices on files, rasps are limited, mainly because their may not be enough woodworkers with an appreciation of fine tools and are prepared to pay extra for a quality tool.

    Our forum here is an exception because we have quite a lot, if not most on here that do appreciate their is a difference in quality but many are financially challenged, myself included, and do the best we can because we love working with wood. Be it in making furniture, building, carving or making toys and models.

    Thank you, your video is truly inspiring.

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liogier View Post
    ..., so please feel free to ask any questions, even the simpliest ones.
    That would be me

    Hi Liogier

    The video is amazing. I was glued to the screen watching it. I have very little knowledge of metal working, so I'm sure my terms will be completely wrong.

    What is the name of the tool used to kick up the metal that creates the little metal point?
    What does the point of that tool look like?
    How can it kick up the metal like that, I'm guessing the metal is still soft enough at that point until it is tempered?
    What was happening to the rasp after tempering? was that sandblasting?

    Thanks
    Wendy

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    Do I see a forum rasp order in the wings
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    Just perused the website, drool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    Do I see a forum rasp order in the wings
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    Unbelievable.

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    Amazing work Logi, good to see real craftsmanship still has a place in this world of mass production and bottom lines.

    All is not lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STAR View Post
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    What I would like to know is for the Dovetail Saws of old and for small carvings and toys and models what instrument would you recommend from your range. And also is it possible to order direct from you to post to Australia.

    I guess a Modeller rasp of 7" (175mm) grain # 13 could be a good compromise for these different uses.

    As regards delivering Australia, I have never did so far, but no problem to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RufflyRustic View Post
    That would be me
    What is the name of the tool used to kick up the metal that creates the little metal point?
    What does the point of that tool look like?
    How can it kick up the metal like that, I'm guessing the metal is still soft enough at that point until it is tempered?
    What was happening to the rasp after tempering? was that sandblasting?

    We call this the chisel used to kick up the teeth a "grain of barley" because of its shape. A rasp has on average 6.000 teeth (actually between 2.000 and 10.000, depending on length and mostly on stitching grain), so we re-sharpen the chisel quite often.
    Both grains of barley and hammers are made by us internaly.
    I have attached some pictures of the tools we use. (Maybe you will see that the handle of the hammer is no longer straight, this is not done on purpose, but after so many blows, the fingers start to carve the wood).

    Actually the video shows only a part of the 38 operations needed. We do an annealing operation on the steel (so it gets softer) before hand-stitching, while the chisels are tempered.

    Yes, the last operation shown on video is sandblasting, with very small and soft balls and low air pressure in order to not damage the teeth.

    Thanks a lot for your interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    Do I see a forum rasp order in the wings
    Do you want me to create a special discount code for your community for group orders ?

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    Thank you, Liogier.

    "a grain of barley" - how interesting!

    the Hammers - my goodness. The fingers indeed do start to carve the wood. The handles must be a fair few years old to develop such a 'carving'

    What timber do you use for the hammer handles?


    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liogier View Post
    Do you want me to create a special discount code for your community for group orders ?

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    Liogier,

    I think that would be the logical outcome of what is happening here. I think when all the guys anang gals from the Hand Tools and Toys section see this there will be lot more interest developed.

    Not everybody on this forum goes to each and every section, but a few do. But we are a very supportive group most our fellow forum users and we all give others sections of our forum notice of interesting developments that might be interesting to others outside where the original post was made.

    I will let the Toy Boys and the hand Tools section know if they are not already aware of it.

    Thank you for visiting our community.

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liogier View Post
    Thanks a lot to all for these very kind messages. My family know-how has no value unless there is some craftmen around the world able to appreciate this quality.
    I am willing to share and exchange with your community, so please feel free to ask any questions, even the simpliest ones.
    Magnificent Liogier and welcome to a top forum of woodworkers DownUnder.
    The sad part about such excellent tools is the exchange rate and freight costs.
    Loved the "you-tube" video, such patience and precision.
    Cheers, Crowie

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