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    Default Handtools only - How to make this box?

    I am thinking about making a Frank Lloyd Wright Taliesen like light stand (desk lamp) which has a number of boxes hanging off a centre post.

    the Box has a general shape like this:
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    I have seen where people have put splines/biscuits across the mitre joint to reinforce the joint and for construction. But I don't have nor will I have a biscuit jointer. I have hand tools and I was wondering how I could make the box (3 sided) with hand tools.

    Any suggestions?

    Well... I do have a sliding mitre saw but to use it, the slines would need to be a through spline.

    Or will a mitre with just glue be adequate?

    Rob

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    Why not dovetail the ends?

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    Hi Derek,

    I did think of dovetailing the ends; which would give a stronger joint.
    However, I was wondering if there were a way to get a cleaner look; have the grain go around the box. But if I can't do this, then it looks like some dovetailing will be in order.

    Rob

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    Try a "secret dovetail" then



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    I have done some big mitres with plane old dowels, you can make a basic doweling jig/block to get the angle from a piece of scrap. drill your holes mark your opposite hole ( I have some of the little Haron plug markers cheap and effective) could also put a spline across the ends, if you don't want to look busy use the same coloured timber so they disapear.
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    I dont think just mitre plus glue is nearly strong enough.

    What about veneer feathers. Adjust the number and/or thickness of veneer feathers for the strength required.

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f87/ma...xes-how-69655/

    scroll down to find the bit on veneer feathers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobTro View Post
    I am thinking about making a Frank Lloyd Wright Taliesen like light stand (desk lamp) which has a number of boxes hanging off a centre post.

    the Box has a general shape like this:
    Attachment 137199

    I have seen where people have put splines/biscuits across the mitre joint to reinforce the joint and for construction. But I don't have nor will I have a biscuit jointer. I have hand tools and I was wondering how I could make the box (3 sided) with hand tools.

    Any suggestions?

    Or will a mitre with just glue be adequate?

    Rob
    Rob

    options that immediately come to mind are:
    • mitre secret dovetails as suggested by Derek
    • mitres reinforced with splines -- you can cut the grooves for the splines with a saw and chisel
    • mitres reinforced with dovetail keys -- the dovetail slots are usually cut with a router, but a tenon saw and chisel would be just as neat. The dovetail keys can be in a contrasting timber
    • mitres reinforced with veneer keys -- if you use a fine saw and matching timber the keys will be nearly invisible, of course a contrasting timber will make a statement
    regards from Alberta, Canada

    ian

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    Thanks people,

    I will give all of your ideas some thought...Do some sketchup drawings and have a go and see what some things come out like.

    Rob

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