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    Exclamation How was this achieved?

    Hi guys,

    How was this build - I see no nails/bolts etc. how are they holding together??
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    Have a look over in the back corner Leo, there's what appears to be a 2"x2" vertical which would probably be nailed/screwed within an inch of it's life....

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    It is probably joined using sleeper nails. 10" long mean mothers. Then, the box is turned upside down so they cant be seen.

    another method is to drill holes and use reinforcing rod to 'dowel' them together. The blocks in the corners nail into the sleepers to keep the corners tight. However, if you bend the reo bar a little there is no need even for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopha View Post
    Have a look over in the back corner Leo, there's what appears to be a 2"x2" vertical which would probably be nailed/screwed within an inch of it's life....
    Yep, there is like a post - but will couple of nails hold the structure together? I mean the sleepers are probably 100mm thick (4"), not even 75. And the posts do look like 50mm, ie 2".
    I don't think it is strong to hold it.:confused:

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    I'm fairly certain there are actually two units, one on top of the other, and the small square timber is to stop side slip. It has nothing to do with holding the unit together.

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    Its a good spot for a sliding dovetail joint...
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    if I'm seeing things, but aren't there slightly lighter-coloured dowels covering up some sort of fixing? (three at each end of each sleeper)

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    Hi Leo,

    I would agree with Groggy. Most likely there are large steel (or timber) dowels which have been placed in large augered holes in each block. I think you can actually buy specific products for this from Landscape Garden supplies.

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    Rob

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    Could it not be a blind mortice/tenon? Or a mitred biscuit joint with the tops cut square to hide it? Or as others have suggested, dowel joints? Lots of ways to do this surely?

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    I'm with Christopha, its most likely just a solid cleat in each corner on the inside which is skew nailed or screwed.
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    You can bet your boots if it was done by a builder it won't be rocket science.

    Keep an eye on it for the next year or two.... I recon she will be looking pretty second hand pretty quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy View Post
    It is probably joined using sleeper nails. 10" long mean mothers. Then, the box is turned upside down so they cant be seen.

    another method is to drill holes and use reinforcing rod to 'dowel' them together. The blocks in the corners nail into the sleepers to keep the corners tight. However, if you bend the reo bar a little there is no need even for that.
    The width of the sleeper is say 240, appr 10", right? Hw does a 20 inch nail holds it together? Confused:confused:

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    Magic methods of cabinetry seem somewhat excessive for a planter box. I'd bet on the cleats, maybe stouter on the lower set. Dig up some of the dirt and see what's there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe greiner View Post
    Magic methods of cabinetry seem somewhat excessive for a planter box. I'd bet on the cleats, maybe stouter on the lower set. Dig up some of the dirt and see what's there.

    Joe
    The box is in US, i found a pic on the net.
    http://www.railwaysleeper.com/Ian%20...%20project.htm

    The description says:
    '... Note the small supporting posts on the inside of the construction, that connect the different sleeper walls together, and yet is invisible when the bed is infilled with soil.'

    That's all.
    So, they must've used nails. :confused: The white spots on the outside of sleepers are not coverings for bolts, because the height of the post is lower than position of the white discoloration. I am just guessing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry72 View Post
    Its a good spot for a sliding dovetail joint...

    Which Gifkin template do you suggest?

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