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    Default help needed on mortice and tennon joints

    i have just done my first mortice and tennon joints on a coffee table and i wanted to have the rails a little receesed from the post / legs however the first joint ended up being flush with the legs, so i had no choice but to continue this on the old table as i had no timber and did not want to go through the hastle of making a new leg.
    so all joints are good but are flush.
    timber is 2 x1" i was wondering if anyone had any oppinions on planing some thickness off the boards to achieve the receesed look i want or would this affect the rigidity of the table frame?

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    Depends on the thickness of the tenons - the general guide is that there should be 1/3 timber in the tenon and 1/3 shoulder on each side. Obviously this is not hard and fast, but most people tend to stick around this as a guide. The strength of your joint wouldn't be compromised by planing the stock as the tenon to mortice contact would not be reduced - it's just a question of how much force/weight is going to be on the stretcher - I am guessing not enough to snap it if you shave some off. The only other issue this introduces in reducing your shoulder is the look of the joint - how clean are your mortices?
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    mortices are quite clean, shoulders on tennons are mice and square only really need to reduce about 2 or 3 mms shoulders are about 8 mm wide

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    If you don't want flush jounts you could use a V bit in the router and run a small groove up the join.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattym83 View Post
    mortices are quite clean, shoulders on tennons are mice and square only really need to reduce about 2 or 3 mms shoulders are about 8 mm wide
    Mate it should me no issue structurally and is an elegant solution to a problem.


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    thanks for the help
    i will shave some off to acheive the look i am after

    matt

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    Well, I'm impressed Matt. The reason most furniture has recessed rails is that it is relatively easy to cut a mortise or tenon in the center of a piece. Getting rails flush against the side takes a lot more skill and patience, so furniture makers recessed the rails as a "feature", which increased their tolerances.

    You have done it flush the first time.

    Well done

    Tex

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