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  1. #1
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    Default Hi guys, Fox in sheeps clothing here! behind enemy lines :)

    Hey everyone,
    First off let me say, Joining a wood working forum is something I never thought i would EVER do, (here it comes).... Being a Metal Fabricator by trade!
    Alas I need the help of anyone thats highly skilled!!!!

    Im not even sure if this is possible as I really have zero idea with wood working, however here goes.
    I am very much in to my cars, long story short... I would like a big ass wing fabricated from wood.
    I know I know, that there are carbon fibre options, but my styling tends to stray from the norm.

    Here is what I am hoping to be able to get made....
    http://www.rx7club.com/attachments/s...basemounts-jpg

    Is this possible? Are any of you guys up for the challenge? Please dont hurt me...

    Thanks
    G

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    Welcome to the fun imabear!!

    About time you learned to handle the original and best fabrication material!!

    Is that thing you want to make street legal???

    It wold be possible to fabricate that from timber. It would require careful laminating for
    strength and flexibility but, since aeroplane propellers are still sometimes made from
    timber, this should not present problems.

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    Good Morning G

    It certainly is possible. Entire cars have been built from wood, so a wing should almost be a doddle. Have a look at:
    The ten coolest wooden cars of all time
    or just google "wooden cars" or similar, and get inundated.

    Joiners and cabinet workers tend to work mainly (or exclusively) with strait timber. Shipwrights work with curved timber - very few strait lines on a boat! One fairly common technique is called "cold molding" or "WEST system". The classic text is "The Gougeon Brothers on Boat Construction - The WEST Technique." which should be available from your local library. Wood cored fibreglass laminations is a later development from that technique.

    If you do not get a good response here, it might be worth reposting in the Boatbuilding section of this Forum.



    Fair Winds

    Graeme

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    In wood I would be look at veneer layers/sandwiched between a top and bottom mould and a vacuum bag and embed ally brackets in there somewhere.

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    As someone who has done fibreglassing in cars and built custom panels and subs and stuff for cars...
    ...go to both the West and System 3 websites and read some of their material.

    Epoxy by the Leading Epoxy Manufacturer | WEST SYSTEM Epoxy
    - System Three Resins, Inc.

    You can also download the Gougeon Brothers boat book from West's website.

    If you want your wing built of wood, the attention to detail and epoxy encapsulation techniques (to keep moisture out) from boat building are what you want to know. Please promise, though, that you won't make the wing out of radiata pine. And please come up with nicer mountings than that bit of errector set shown in your pic!

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    Gidday G, welcome aboard and may your journey with us be a pleasant one.
    Regards Rumnut.

    SimplyWoodwork
    Qld. Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imabear86 View Post
    Hey everyone,
    First off let me say, Joining a wood working forum is something I never thought i would EVER do, (here it comes).... Being a Metal Fabricator by trade!
    Alas I need the help of anyone thats highly skilled!!!!

    Im not even sure if this is possible as I really have zero idea with wood working, however here goes.
    I am very much in to my cars, long story short... I would like a big ass wing fabricated from wood.
    I know I know, that there are carbon fibre options, but my styling tends to stray from the norm.

    Here is what I am hoping to be able to get made....
    http://www.rx7club.com/attachments/s...basemounts-jpg

    Is this possible? Are any of you guys up for the challenge? Please dont hurt me...

    Thanks
    G
    Hi G

    that shape is doable using either veneers or segmental construction
    I'd need to see the original and understand what compromises you're prepared to accept before I could make a firm recommendation, but for now I think segmental construction would be preferred.

    However, the cost of the tooling to carve the shape you want might make your jaw drop.

    because it will be sealed in fibreglass a material other than wood might be preferred, but if timber I suggest balsa for minimal weight.

    depending on your CAD skills, the cheapest option might be to pay someone to CNC carve it for you
    regards from Alberta, Canada

    ian

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    Thanks everyone for the replies!!!
    Have taken in all your information, Im aware that the price of this will make my jaw drop! how far is the question lol.
    I shall try and get a cad drawing and go from there!
    Thanks heaps!

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    Hi imabear,

    love your idea, but have you consider the weight factor? Commonly, people use fibreglass, alumunium, carbon fibre because of these materials are not bulky but strong and lightweight. And i am not sure wood for external body, since it will be exposed to nature elements (expand, shrink, fade, rot)
    sorry, i don't meant to rain your parade, just my 2cents.
    i am a car man myself.

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