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    Default How to hold a scribing piece ?

    Hi guys,

    I am about to attempt my first go at building a big fitted wardrobe 3.8m long & 2.6m high & was hoping for some advice from the worldly wise on a few points.

    The floor is out at least 15mm end to end & the walls around 25mm top to bottom.

    The unit is going to be fitted out with 18mm melamine chipboard & with externally sourced sliding doors.

    1) I've been thinking about how I will assemble it & am a little foxed on how to scribe various parts. I do know how to scribe by the way
    a - The full height side panels. Obviously to begin with they are going to be higher than the room so how do you scribe them ? My only idea was to get some thin board to make a template. Put the level on the top of it & get it level off the floor then scribe the bottom of the board to the floor. Cut to shape and transfer to the big sheet. For the top same thing just a bit more tricky to hold everything. Is there a better way especially for the top ?

    b - How to hold the long fillets for scribing ??? The bottom bit I could probably just put on the bottom board but the sides and top bit are really long and unsupported. How do you professionals out there do it ? I am guessing I'll start building the unit with the right scribe fillet and move back across the room but then I have nothing to hold the fillet help ! What are the tricks of the trade ?

    2) I didn't really want the bottom board more than about 50m off the floor for levelling. Given the length of the board what is the best way to get a level playing field ? Just manually build with 2" by 2" timber & shim, maybe get 50mm high adjustable legs if possible ?? something else ? Getting the floor board absolutely level is crucial to the whole assembly.

    3) Order of build I was expecting to :
    Scribe full height right panel to fit but don't fix.
    Scribe and fit right fillet to wall.
    Put in level base board & square up right panel to the floor board & fix in place.
    From this point on it aught to be pretty simple

    Would this be the normal order of assembly ?

    4) I've attached 2 different sketchup drawings of the design. 1st one I'd have to plane down a fillet to the floor for the bottom runner, the 2nd I could just lay the bottom track on the extended floor board. Think I prefer the second from a aesthetics point of view as long as the draws clear the bottom rail. What you think ?

    Btw, this lot might make me seem a bit of a newby but I have built a house, fitted kitchens, installed bathrooms etc etc etc so I am reasonably skilled just lacking some of your expertise in this area.

    Any and all help gratefully received !!

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    I used to take a measurement every 75 to 100 mm and tanspose them to the scribed piece and then just join the points and mostly got a good result. If your wall has some funny angles just make the measurements a little closer together.

    Hope this helps.

    Robert
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    Default Doh

    Well that was a bit obvious can't believe I never thought of that & sure once you have caulked the join it'd remove any un-evenness. Got myself transfixed with scribing I guess. Thanks for that.

    Any idea on getting the floor levelled ? Bit wary of building a frame out of 2x2 as timbers are inevitably not straight which makes it a pain but maybe its the only way.

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    Make your frame out of particle board and put a shelf on it sepparately. Just level the base with packers and scribe the largest gap. If you know how far the floor is out, then make the base that much bigger and you will end up with the height that you want.

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    >Make your frame out of particle board and put a shelf on it sepparately. Just >level the base with packers and scribe the largest gap.
    When you say scribe the largest gap are you referring to the facing fillet or to actually scribe each part of the base frame ? I'd have through the later would be prone to inaccuracies so I am guessing you mean the former ?

    >If you know how far the floor is out, then make the base that much bigger >and you will end up with the height that you want.
    this implies you mean scribe the base frame to the floor ?? Surely just packing is the safer option ? although 15mm of packers seems quite a bit.

    Russ

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    When I was cabinet making, this is what I always did, generally, I would only pack to 5/6mm max. It is well worth the effort to scribe, because of the stability that it provides.

    Robert
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    Default Great

    Many thanks for that, excellent advice. I'll scribe to the floor then & pack with a few mm shims as needed. Cheers.

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