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28th July 2014, 08:29 PM #1New Member
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Help! Pre-primed or cypress cladding?
Hi there;
We are extending a 50/60 year old weatherboard house in Sydney and we are trying to get the new extension to match the existing as closely as possible. I'm after some advice as my builder/carpenters and timber supplier are conflicting. On one hand my carpenters have advisd that we should be using pre-primed cladding as it is easier and quicker to put up, just nail it in, no pre-drilling, no splitting, need to prime etc.... and we can get a very close match in this. This will save on labour costs and wastage costs apparently. My supplier has advised us to use unprimed cypress which he can have cut to match my existing boards. He has advised us to prime after it has been put up and said that if it is "fresh" it should not require pre-drilling and should not split too much, with any minor splits able to be filled in with builders bog. The supplier has said that Cypress is more durable and will last longer, whilst pre-primed may "pop" off over time or if not treated on the cuts, rot over time....I know nothing about timber and am now very confused. The cypress is also cheaper per lineal metre.... Any help on this would be greatly appreciated! I don't want to regret my choice in 10 years....
Julzie
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28th July 2014, 09:39 PM #2Taking a break
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"Treated on the cuts" basically means "painted" so you should really brush some undercoat on the cut ends before installing, but as long as your painter does a good job, I don't think it'll matter too much. Some of the pre-primed stuff is also treated so its insect and rot resistant.
That's my 2c, you might get better answers posting in the renovators section (right down the bottom of the home page)
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28th July 2014, 10:16 PM #3Senior Member
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Cypress does like to be pre drilled ie it can split, bad. But it is naturally resistant to pests, good.
preprimed is (my understanding) just radiata pine which is a soft wood, bad. But it goes on fast, good.
"some" builders do look for the easy way because just that it's easier.
both your builder and supplier are correct.
The builder fears that using cypress will slow the work and cost money by adding labour cost. If the builder takes the advice of the supplier and doesn't pre drill (there is no guarantee that fresh boards won't split if not pre drilled) and a board splits you have lost time and material, cost. Or if the split is not too bad builders bog can be mixed and applied, additional cost. Your supplier will not reimburse your builder if it splits without drilling, so your builder obviously has apprehension. The finished look will not be dissimilar either board but pine boards will rot faster than cypress if the painting and maintenance is not kept pristine.
for instance they use cypress pine posts for fence posts they do not use radiata pine posts for fence posts.
if it was my house and I was going to be in the house in 10 years time I would go for cypress because I would be putting the boards on myself and my time costs me very little, I would probably pre drill too. I also know that in 10 years time I won't repaint, repair or touch up the paint cos I don't like painting. Not true I would actually paint it very well so I did not have to repaint touch up in 10 years. So you need to weigh up the variables, material, labour and likely hood of maintenance
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29th July 2014, 12:07 PM #4New Member
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Thanks so much! Very useful info! We are planning on staying in this house for many years to come so we are now leaning toward Cypress. At the end of the day we want a durable product, so I'd rather put the extra effort and money in now, that go for the quicker option and be diappoitinted in the long run. Any tips on the best primer to use?
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29th July 2014, 02:37 PM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Has anyone had experience with cypress in regard to how stable it is ,all my experience(not as weather boards) has seem it twist and warp?
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29th July 2014, 06:46 PM #6
The cypress is more durable.
Priming the cut ends is the most important part.
Prime it on the face (at least) and 1 coat of top coat (or use a primer/top coat in your final colour), before it goes up, so that if it shrinks (it will), you don't get stripes.
I would pre-drill cypress.
Good luck,
TM
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29th July 2014, 10:08 PM #7New Member
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TM, I was told I would be fine to prime after they went up, as Cypress has a minimal shrinkage rate (<2%). Bad advice?
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30th July 2014, 06:27 PM #8
The most important thing is priming the cut ends.
If your sure it's not going to shrink, you can prime it later.
I would prime it in the final colour before it went up, but that's me (I've been caught out before).
cheers,
TM
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