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    Evening all,

    SWMBO has decreed that I am to build two chests of drawers, most of the design is up to me but the drawers must be flush with the front of the cabinet. The drawer panels will be 130mm boards and the separation panels 42mm or a generic width from my supplier. I will cut the drawer fronts out of the 130mm lengths then butt joint with biscuits as this will allow any grain to continue across the front of the unit. I am fairly happy with that bit but I am to have the drawers on runners. I intend to use dovetails on the drawers (if santa is nice to me, Gifkins) and cannot think how to get them in there. I could use concealed runners underneath but then I couldnt remove the drawers once installed.

    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated...

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    Hi,
    you could design it so you can use these. Go to page 829

    Smooth action, and when base mounted (underneath the drawer) has a 60kg carrying capacity.
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    Hi Corbs, Looks like a great project, but I have to confess, I'm confused as to what the problem is. Sorry.

    I thought that if you built the drawer, then attached it to the drawer front, you'd be able to make the drawer size whatever was needed so it would move in the space however you wanted it to, eg using metal slides or wooden runners. Am I on the right track or have I missed your point completely :confused:

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    Matrix,
    That is probably what I am going to have to use for the runners but from what I have seen of them once they are fixed the drawer cant be removed without unscrewing the runners.

    Wendy,
    I want the front of the drawer to be the actual front and not false. Then the end of the dovetail tails should show on the front of the unit to create a feature on the front. By doing this there would not be any room to side mount runners unless someone could think of something that I haven't. I think Matrix's bottom mounted runners may be the way for me to go.

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    You could rebate the runners into the side of the drawers, stopping just before the front.

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    What about making the drawer sides a bit thicker than normal, and cutting a dado into the actual side of the drawer? Then you mount a hardwood runner on the frame on each side?

    Pic attached that might explain it better.

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    Edit.. types faster, but I did a picture

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    You can use Hafele concealed runners under the drawers. The drawer can be removed by pulling it right out and lifting the front. Will see if I can find some pics of how it works.
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    If you want to save a few $$$, the rebate and wooden runners are the way to go. Wax them, to get them running smooth.
    If $$$ arent a concern, those ones Matrix posted up look nice

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    Hi Corbs,
    I am currently making the same thing (sort of). If you want, I can scan and send to you a plan for exactly what you want to achieve complete with all necessary info. Its from a book called Making Carcass Furniture.

    Regards,

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    Here's a link to some pics of how to install the Hafele concealed runners.
    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...drawer+runners
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
    You can use Hafele concealed runners under the drawers. The drawer can be removed by pulling it right out and lifting the front. Will see if I can find some pics of how it works.
    Alex, if you are referring to the type that Matrix has referred to above I didnt realise they could be removed. If they can then that would solve all my problems as they give a full extension open and a large load capacity.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ianab
    What about making the drawer sides a bit thicker than normal, and cutting a dado into the actual side of the drawer? Then you mount a hardwood runner on the frame on each side?

    Pic attached that might explain it better.
    Ian, I would have gone for this option but the brief was quite clear, the drawers must be on runners. Nice picture though.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alexs
    Here's a link to some pics of how to install the Hafele concealed runners.
    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...drawer+runners

    Alex, just realised you are not talking about the same runners as I am. I will do some more research and see what options I have available. I intend to use 19mm wood for fronts and drawer sides to recessing the runners into the side of the drawers is definately an option for me to look into. Thanks for all your assistance so far and I will be sure to post pics once this thing goes past the planning phase and into the cutting, glueing and swearing phase.

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    The ones I used are on P 827 of the Hafele catalogue.
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