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Thread: Identification of Treated Wood
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10th September 2012, 05:44 PM #1
Identification of Treated Wood
Last Saturday I managed to pick up a piece of wood that I think could be treated pine.
The piece I came across was 240mm x 50mm and a little over 1 meter in length. It was covered in muck so did not know the colour but the grain was very straight with one knot in this lenght that would be about 150mm wide.
When I picked this up it was very heavy and got me thinking it might be Oregon. As I am very much a novice to identification of timber so I was not certain. I cut it on the bandsaw so that I could mount if on the lathe. Once on the lathe and started to cut I could smell a sort of sweet sugar smell.
Now I got to thinking that this might not be Oregon as I do not recall it giving a sugar sensation.
The endgrain of the timber was quarter sawn for about 2 thirds and then started to come round. On the lathe I got a lot of tear out even with light cuts and the moisture meter was about 6 to 10 percent at some places.
What do you guys think? Is this treated pine or some other wood that gives off a sweet smell?
Thank you
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10th September 2012, 06:48 PM #2
Photos would help a lot Christos
Lots of Pine types ............might have been part of a sugar box or someone may have spilt sweet tea over it.
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10th September 2012, 07:25 PM #3
Treated timber must be coloured , I believe , so that people are aware , that it is chemically treated, Pine is normally either light GREEN or a Blue colour, this will be evident for several millimeters into the timber , if not all the way through.
Jeff
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12th September 2012, 12:47 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Could be LOSP treated pine. A clear light organic solvent preservative. Not suitable for inground contact but an excellent preservative for above ground application. As it is oil based, it prevents checking, which has always been a problem with CCA treated timber. As the timber is end grain labelled, it is not always coloured. Once the timber is cut, removing the label, the solvent is usually identified by the sweet smell you discribe.
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12th September 2012, 01:21 PM #5
Unfortunately not totally true, Jeff.
Copper-chrome-arsenic (CCA) gives treated pine its familiar green colour; it is relatively cheap but does not work on hardwoods. There are well over 100 other wood treatments used, and most of them are colourless, or only very faintly change the hue of the timber.
When I worked in the timber industry many years ago, all imported timber had to be treated prior to importation - AQIS rules - and Aus timbers had to be treated for certain usages. As the dipping station was at the end of the sawing run, many mills, including ours took the easy way out and dipped everything. Timber packs were then wrapped in plastic so that the chemicals infused.
Fair Winds
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12th September 2012, 03:36 PM #6Novice
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Graeme is correct on this. I work in a plant that manufactures LOSP and other timber treatments and about half of what we send to the mills is clear and you would not know to look at the timber once treated. I guess you might be able to spray some water onto the surface and see if it beads or eventually soaks in. If its treated the water should not soak in but in saying that if it is an older peice the resins and oils may have worn off.
To be safe i would not be using the peice or at least use gloves and full face respirator. It can be pretty nasty stuff (especially if you dont know which chemical is used).
Ben
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12th September 2012, 10:18 PM #7
I will take photos of this when I am next in the shed.
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16th September 2012, 05:42 PM #8
Managed to get some photos of the timber that I was turning.
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After chatting to another person that dropped by he also thinks that this has been treated and found this very heavy compared to Pine.
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16th September 2012, 06:26 PM #9
Lots of types of Pine Christos how did it smell ?..............I know it doesnt have a nose so it can't smell. Has the look of camphor also
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16th September 2012, 08:17 PM #10
It does have a very sweet smell and not that of Camphor. I am sort of familiar with Camphor from the working with wood show last year(2011).
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17th September 2012, 06:28 PM #11GOLD MEMBER
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looks like LOSP treated Arikaria to me.
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