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27th January 2014, 04:48 PM #1
Is illegal to have a hobby shop at home
This is a treaded question we probably face but I need to know where I stand.
I rent a house and own both power tools bandsaw,tablesaw the works and alot of hand tools, I don't run a business and I mostly use hand tools. I first bought machinery and didn't like it so I chirned to hand tools and found my niche but I'm still reluctant to sell my power tools as on occasion they come in handy. I have a house inspection in the two weeks all my friends claim that my garage looks like a professional cabinet shop. So far the agents never looked in the garage but there's always a chance they might so I need to know where I stand legally if they have a whinge.
This is my hobby I believe everybody deserves to have one my neighbours never complained since they never hear any noise, I'm so scared every year they might have a peek. It's unfair that I go through this. So does anyone where I stand legally?
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27th January 2014, 04:55 PM #2
G'day section1!
IMO, I wouldn't have thought that there would not be a problem unless there is something hidden in the conditions of the rental/lease agreement or there is something peculiar to QLD.Russell (aka Mulgabill)
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27th January 2014, 05:02 PM #3
I would read the lease agreement and see what is not permitted. I dont know the law on this but will watch and learn.
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John
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27th January 2014, 05:06 PM #4
I would have thought that provided you are not damaging the property, not deriving an income and not disturbing the neighbours then you have nothing to worry about. If it were a business then I would think that this would breach the lease agreement.
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27th January 2014, 05:06 PM #5
section1, I wouldn't worry. It's a hobby and unless you have a sign on the front of the garage that says "Section1's Woodshop" ..there will be no problems.
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27th January 2014, 05:13 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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You won't be alone if this was a real issue I suspect.
Unless something is in your lease agreement (a State thing), I think Council rather than State laws might be an issue if someone "objects". GCCC like all non-Bris SEQ councils think they are a law unto themselves, if an agent wanted you out and played hardball.
I've seen your workshop/garage Section1. It looked pretty tidy to me and they should be impressed rather than upset. Business-like but hardly a business.
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27th January 2014, 05:23 PM #7
I am currently renting while I have to live away from my own house for family reasons. I have never had a problem. When looking for a new place to rent I always get the agent to look for one with a big shed or if I find one with a big shed I let them know the reason that is important to me. Usually they are very supportive. The owner of our house was here on Friday. He was pleased to see someone making good use of his shed and all the 15 amp power points his brother-in-law put in for him.
Most rental agents are female and on the first inspection after 90 days when they call around, they leave with a small jewelry/keepsake box, nothing fancy and expensive looking, but just nice. I generally finish up as their favorite tenant.
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27th January 2014, 05:26 PM #8
I also rent, its my hobby, am in NSW the landlord is fine with what I do. The neighbours as we are in a duplex are fine with it as are other neighbours they often pop over to chat see what I am up to although i have had to stop them doing it when machines are running for their and my safety.
How ever I have one of these neighbours who believes I am running a business/hobby making money and being on benefits and is constantly asking how much I am making from the items. Most are for friends family or ourselves. Yes there are odd times I make a few dollars but take into account the time effort and gear and I am in the red.
I know a bloke who hires a storage garage and does all his work there.
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27th January 2014, 06:08 PM #9GOLD MEMBER
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Renter here too.
The shed(s) were listed on the lease as 'outbuildings' and the agent has never looked in them.
They just make sure that they're still standing.Geoff
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27th January 2014, 06:46 PM #10anne-maria.
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27th January 2014, 07:21 PM #11
Without reading the rental agreement it is difficult to tell the exact situation but I have a feeling when I have previously rented it cannot be used for commercial purposes. If this clause is in the rental agreement then if an income is being drawn from the woodworking then technically it is breaching the clause and the rental agreement.
In reality however I don't think that the real estate agent is going to give two hoots. They will not be interested in doing any additional paperwork so provided the place is in good shape then I cant see them being interested in anything further.Now proudly sponsored by Binford Tools. Be sure to check out the Binford 6100 - available now at any good tool retailer.
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27th January 2014, 09:22 PM #12
Wow overwhelming response thank you guys you have some what put my mind at ease.
Looks are deceiving people who have never worked wood don't understand our passion and automatically would assume upon seeing all those benches, machinery and hand tools as if I'm running some kind of business. If I were I most definitely wouldn't do it from home even just to save a few bucks on rent the distraction isn't worth it.
I have gone over the rental agreement and there's nothing in it that say's I can't have a hobby. In fact after doing a bit of digging the law says the tenants have a right to utilise the property in full and that's what I'm doing, like I said before I use 99% hand tools except when I'm resawing slabs or logs on my bandsaw but I close all doors and windows and no one can hear anything.
I love working wood I can't ever imagine not doing it after working so hard in my day job and dealing with all the stresses of work it's the only place I find solice, serenity, it's a place of retreat even for a few hours it does wonders on the mind and body. I can't see myself making a living out of it I don't think I would ever want to nothing on a large scale anyway if I were to make a few bucks it would only be to buy another tool for the shop and whatever surplus I made would be donated to charity a wonderful dream that is.
One day I hope to buy my own house on acerage far from prying eyes and just work wood without looking over my shoulder.
Thanks again guys you guys are the best.
Salko
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27th January 2014, 09:32 PM #13Now proudly sponsored by Binford Tools. Be sure to check out the Binford 6100 - available now at any good tool retailer.
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27th January 2014, 09:35 PM #14
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27th January 2014, 10:56 PM #15
I thought those clauses precluding deriving an income meant don't run a brothel.
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