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Thread: Imperial Metric Confusions
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18th December 2013, 02:31 PM #1
Imperial Metric Confusions
Good Morning Everyone
Australia officially adopted the metric system following the Decimal Conversion Act 1970 - over 43 tears ago. Why doesn't someone tell Bunnings, Mitre 10 and Masters???
Zenith 10mm Stainless Steel Turnbuckle E&E I/N 3953119 | Bunnings Warehouse
My latest debacle was a purchase of a pair of 10 mm stainless turnbuckles which I wanted to use with some 10 mm threaded rod. But the rod was to fat to fit into the treaded sockets on the turnbuckles - they were about 9.5mm diameter. My fitter & turner mate took one look at the turnbuckles and announced that the thread "looked like whitworth". A quick check with a thread gauge veryified that they were, in fact, ⅜ inch whitworth. The product is clearly labelled as 10 mm; no mention that that is merely a very rough decimal approximation of ⅜ imperial.
Intriguingly, all those imperial products that the BigChains continue to carry are almost all made in China, China and China - plus a little from Taiwan, Korea and even Japan - all of whom are metric countries. Does imperial mean special order?
F&T mate - "Don't know why you are so off. The package is clearly labelled Zenith to tell you its a crap product."
End of rant.
Fair Winds
Graeme
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18th December 2013, 02:59 PM #2
I would have thought that the 10mm referred to the wire rope size, not the thread size of the mechanism.
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18th December 2013, 03:15 PM #3
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18th December 2013, 04:29 PM #4
It's probably imperial because it is made for another market and then repackaged to dump excess here rather than make a true metric version for our market.
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18th December 2013, 04:49 PM #5
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18th December 2013, 07:10 PM #6
its 10mm because each end will take a 5mm wire,
2 times 5 is 10, where's the issue...
It says nowhere on the pack whats 10mm
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18th December 2013, 08:33 PM #7
That's nearly worth taking to consumer affairs over false marketing
or at least making a formal complaint to Bunnings management over it,
even over there head to Wesfarmers head office...
https://www.wesfarmers.com.au/contact.html
or to ITW Proline
Zenith Contact Us Page - ITW Proline
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18th December 2013, 09:52 PM #8Skwair2rownd
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Where possible I avoid Zenith products like the plague!!
Mostly made from holey cheese I think. Coach bolts that shear off
with very little force exerted, packaged nuts and bolts that are of
different sizes, Posidrive packaged as Phillips and vice versa.
Luckily I have Fraser Coast Bolts and Industrial where I can, and do shop!!!!
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19th December 2013, 06:53 AM #9Senior Member
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Plumbing fittings at Bunnings are similar to this situation. They list 1/2 inch BSP compression fittings as 12mm.
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19th December 2013, 12:20 PM #10rrich Guest
Interesting perspective.
With most of the planet using the Metric system, we have the same problem but in the opposite direction. When items are made in a Metric factory and then labeled as imperial it becomes a problem. I have cut tenons to 3/8 inch. Then using a 3/8 inch or 10 MM chisel to chop the mortise became a disaster.
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19th December 2013, 12:47 PM #11
Yes well. WEnt through the threaded rod thing. Apparently bunnings only carries threaded rod in imperial sizes cos its "handy man or something. I think auto stuff is metric. So you can't get a turn buckle threaded onto a threaded rod. Forgot what I was wanting to do now.
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19th December 2013, 04:14 PM #12Skwair2rownd
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Was sure Bunnies had metric booker rod!!
As for plumbing fittings I always thought we stuck with BSP so things had to be Imperial??
At one stage you could be fined in this country for importing imperial measuring equipment!
In Brazil they have a mix of sizes. BSP pipe fittings that don't equate with anything I know,
some things can only be bought in Imperial sizes, others only in metric. There seems to be
no standardized land size such as a hectare instead they have an alcade that varies in area
depending on where you are!! They talk about centilitres and decilitres. Talk about a shambles.
I maintain this country was sold a pup with the decimal system. We were told an encyclopedia of
lies about how the rest of the world was metric!! BS!! even where there was a metric system there
was no real standardization among countries.
We should be fully metric as it is too late and would be too costly to turn back the clock.
Let places like Bunnings and others hear it from us. return things and complain loudly
and at length until they listen.
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24th December 2013, 07:07 PM #13Senior Member
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Bunnings is horrible and you shouldnt shop there.
I understand its convenient, but really, the negatives vastly outweigh the positives.
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26th December 2013, 08:46 PM #14
I've had this issue many times with dowel - a real PITA.
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26th December 2013, 10:24 PM #15Skwair2rownd
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How's this for confusion....
Remember the Mar's lander that crashed and burnt??
Two teams worked on that. The mathematicians , who worked in miles, yads and feet-
and the programers who worked in kilometres and metres.
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