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28th June 2015, 06:16 PM #1New Member
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Info required on adhesive
Years ago, i made a garden bench in teak. I used a waterproof glue, the name began with w but I cant remember the rest - anyway, 20 years later the bench has fallen apart and I want to reconstruct. I find that the description of adhésives available don't fill me with confidence in using them for outdoors and perhaps the inherent oiliness of teak needs to be considered? Any suggestions...?
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28th June 2015, 07:20 PM #2
The only one I can think of starting with a "W" is Weldbond, which, as far as I can tell, is just a type of PVA.
Make sure you have removed all traces of old glue from the mating faces (very few glues will stick to old glue) and use Titebond II or III, or a marine epoxy.
Wipe the mating faces clean with a rag and some acetone immediately before gluing.
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28th June 2015, 07:56 PM #3Taking a break
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Any polyurethane glue should be fine for oily/waxy timber and outdoor use. We used to use Purweld by Purbond at work until we found a locally made alternative that performed just as well for about half the price.
Purbond was made in Switzerland at the time, so if that hasn't changed it should be readily available in Europe.
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28th June 2015, 08:04 PM #4
May have been West Systems - Hydro Epoxy.
Its a two pack epoxy glue used for boat building. Great for Teak. It's still available. Try Whitworths.
You could also use Techniglue (same as above). I used it today for a Tool Chest
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1st July 2015, 08:09 PM #5New Member
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I think the glue I used may have been a commercial version of Resorcinol. I am pretty sure it bragged about being used to build aircraft...
I have been doing some reading around and it appears that R effectively requires a tight glue-line, whereas epoxy resins are more gap-filliing. Since the 'deconstruction' of my bench caused some failure of the wood around some joints, there will be some filling required. I have a spare two-pack epoxy resin now I have sold my boat (some yachtie version manufactured by Voss, presumably part of Blohm&Voss who developed resins extensively in WWII), so I think I will use that. I also have some fluffy West System stuff (derived from wood?) which I can bulk it out with to fill the holes a bit better.
Sounds good ??
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1st July 2015, 08:42 PM #6Taking a break
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Sounds like a good plan to me. I think the fluffy stuff is cotton fibres or something like that, definitely not wood based, the boss was using it on his boat a while ago.
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6th July 2015, 01:02 PM #7
The fillers in epoxy is often very fine styrofoam balls. It makes it easy to sand once dry.
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6th July 2015, 01:05 PM #8
Just thinking that the epoxy hardener may be out of date if you've had it for a while. Maybe you should mix a bit up for a test.
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6th July 2015, 07:34 PM #9
I've got one batch of Techniglue (manufacture date 1998) that's still going strong - just a bit darker than usual!
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7th July 2015, 02:48 AM #10
Any time a Human being prints something on a label that says its
supposedly going to out do mother nature , DON'T believe them.
The reality is (edit, plenty of us, not all ) are just a bunch of lying Cheeky Chimps .
Rob
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