Thread: Joinery as it was.

Thanks Tisorp
I have ordered the full set of Neolithic stone tools for my workshop, great links, wish I could read German. That must have been very hight tech for 5000BC

Fascinating!!.

And I thought they used rope to join timber until the invention of the Domino.

Interesting find.

Originally Posted by Claw Hama

I have ordered the full set of Neolithic stone tools for my workshop,

Can not seem to find them are they listed in Carba-Stone?

Interesting, Tisorp. Babelfish does a reasonable job of translating it, but what is a Holznagel?

according to my dictionary it is a dowel - literally a wooden nail.

andrew

Originally Posted by AlexS

Interesting, Tisorp. Babelfish does a reasonable job of translating it, but what is a Holznagel?

Holznagel = (literally) "wooden nail". Older english terms for this are: nog and trenail or treenail.
According to my Concise Oxford Dictionary:
Nog = (in this context) "a small block or peg of wood."
Trenail / treenail = "a hard wooden pin for securing timbers etc."

Cheers, Jeff

Thanks - that makes sense.

Hence "noggins" as in building frames and ones head????

Originally Posted by artme

Hence "noggins" as in building frames and ones head????

As good a guess as any other, and probably better than most. My dictionary indicates "Origin unknown" for nog, egg nog, and noggin; as of 1973.

Cheers,
Joe

My guess is that the term nogging came from the German 'knagge' meaning knot. The knotty pieces were used as cross bracing but weren't used in structural pieces as they weren't strong enough.



nog[2]
/nog/.
noun
1. a brick-shaped piece of wood built into a wall, especially as a hold for nails.
2. any wooden peg, pin, or block.
verb, past tense and past participle nogged; present participle nogging.
verb (t)
3. to fill in (a wall, etc.) with brickwork.
verb (i)
4. to construct nogging.
[origin uncertain; ? variant of obsolete knag, Middle English knagge spur, peg]

knag
/nag/.
noun
1. a knot in wood.
2. the base of a branch.
[Middle English knag(g)e, related to German Knagge knot, peg; cleat]

nogging
/'noging/.
noun
1. the brick filling to a wooden-framed partition.
2. the horizontal short timbers in stud positions, used to stiffen the vertical members of a framed partition.
Also, noggin.
[nog[2] + -g- + -ing[1]]