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    Default A little chipboard trivia

    Just recalling a few years ago I found out that kitchen cupboards that had chipboard shelves displayed a peculiar phenonemon, the little cardboard packs of jelly wouldn't set when made up.
    It appears that the bonding in the chipboard would release slowly and permeate the cardboard and the inner paper wrapper and findits way inot the crystal rendering it useless.
    What I do not know is if this also applies to MDF and more recently the melamine MDF (which can still be unveneered on the back).
    I suppose you could say this was possibly harmless because no one will go for an unset jelly, but what about other products stored in cardboard.
    I am assuming that the chemical was urea formaldahyde.
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    Very interesting Iain. Have you proved it was the chemicals from the MDF?

    It certainly makes you wonder what else is affected by the man made compounds we subject ourselves to in order to make large companies even larger. Of course compensation detracts from the profits but there are loop holes and delay tactics to avoid paying out.

    I love progress at any cost - great for the economy.

    This could equally apply to wine casks - clean skins must be safer.
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    Rob, was not my research, just recalled reading it somewhere and it was concluded that it was the chipboard causing the problem.
    As for the Chateau Cardboard, that 20 carat silver lining should resist anything, except dero's
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    Struth Iain.... don't tell 'her inside'
    Next thing we know, the bloody cupboards will all have to be glass & the weetbix packet will have to be glass...... Hmmmm idea forming....

    Has anybody tried making glass lingerie... just a passing thought.
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    Wicked Weasel make something close to that Cliff
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    What little cardboard things of jelly? That sounds quite crook. Must be an OZ thingee.
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    Haven't thought of making that before Cliff. Clearly a good idea though, and I like the way you're thinking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Childress View Post
    What little cardboard things of jelly? That sounds quite crook. Must be an OZ thingee.
    What are you calling jelly? not what we call jam, that sticky sweet goop that goes on toast.
    Jelly here comes in crystal form and is made up by adding boiling water then allowed to cool and set, tyhe Poms on the other hand use a concentrated jelly block which is dissolved in boiling water, diluted then allowed to set.
    Casn we help it that the rest of the world are wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain View Post
    What are you calling jelly? not what we call jam, that sticky sweet goop that goes on toast.
    Jelly here comes in crystal form and is made up by adding boiling water then allowed to cool and set, tyhe Poms on the other hand use a concentrated jelly block which is dissolved in boiling water, diluted then allowed to set.
    Casn we help it that the rest of the world are wrong

    it always sounds weird when yanks talk about having a peanut butter and jelly sandwich...what a gross combination!!! (if you took it literally in aussie terms...sorta like aussies hearing the yank phrase 'we're rooting for you )

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    Hi Iain, Where I worked at the last place, we would receive batteries from the USA in chipboard boxes with health warnings stamped all over them about the release of urea formaldehyde gas and the effects on the lungs etc really bad for young people, rang the state health mob to see why no warnings on the local stuff, answer don’t know don’t bother us, it must be OK its on the market, rang a supplier of the chipboard and yes same composition as USA stuff but not required to be stamped with a warning in Australia.<O

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    We have a safety bulletin we can send you if you like, yes please. It contained about the same information as the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 /><st1:country-region><ST1USA</st1:country-region> stamped boxes . If used in internal buildings it should be sealed /painted etc . Some effects were rashes and breathing problems sore eyes if exposed to the released fumes etc really bad for kids. I thought this is crap most kids furniture is made of this stuff, bookshelf’s tables cupboards etc. Rang the manufacturer, yes should be sealed but not our responsibility, the old story not us someone else,so gave up and never used it in my house where I could avoid it,and what I did have, made sure it was sealed well ………..Peter
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    Quote Originally Posted by womble View Post
    sorta like aussies hearing the yank phrase 'we're rooting for you )
    Well, Cliff told me what you looked like and I wouldn't
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    Jelly here comes in crystal form and is made up by adding boiling water then allowed to cool and set
    I think they call it Jello. "I like Airplane Jello". Doesn't really have the same ring as Aeroplane Jelly, does it?

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    Default Cancer board

    It depends where the board is manfactured.

    If it is made in Australia it has to comply to the Australian Standards that specify only a certain level of formaldehyde is present in the board.

    It seems that imported board products don't have to comply to the same standards - something to do with the fact that they are technically already "cut and sealed".

    I previosuly posted a thread about this topic here:

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f80/imported-vs-local-33289

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentC View Post
    I think they call it Jello. "I like Airplane Jello". Doesn't really have the same ring as Aeroplane Jelly, does it?
    Quite right, Silent. It is marketed here primarily as Jello, a trademarked brand of Kraft Foods. Now that I know exactly what it is, I repeat:

    Sounds quite crook. Don't much care for it.

    As for you, Womble, you can do your own rooting, er. . . cheering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain View Post
    Well, Cliff told me what you looked like and ....
    I did not either ya stirrer...
    I still haven't met Womble yet.
    He was going to bring me a computer to look at a while back but didn't get around to it.
    I'll have to catch up with him one day 'cos his new house is only about 30kms from our place on the tablelands.
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