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Thread: A little chipboard trivia
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19th December 2006, 07:23 AM #1
A little chipboard trivia
Just recalling a few years ago I found out that kitchen cupboards that had chipboard shelves displayed a peculiar phenonemon, the little cardboard packs of jelly wouldn't set when made up.
It appears that the bonding in the chipboard would release slowly and permeate the cardboard and the inner paper wrapper and findits way inot the crystal rendering it useless.
What I do not know is if this also applies to MDF and more recently the melamine MDF (which can still be unveneered on the back).
I suppose you could say this was possibly harmless because no one will go for an unset jelly, but what about other products stored in cardboard.
I am assuming that the chemical was urea formaldahyde.Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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19th December 2006, 11:16 AM #2
Very interesting Iain. Have you proved it was the chemicals from the MDF?
It certainly makes you wonder what else is affected by the man made compounds we subject ourselves to in order to make large companies even larger. Of course compensation detracts from the profits but there are loop holes and delay tactics to avoid paying out.
I love progress at any cost - great for the economy.
This could equally apply to wine casks - clean skins must be safer.- Wood Borer
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19th December 2006, 11:22 AM #3
Rob, was not my research, just recalled reading it somewhere and it was concluded that it was the chipboard causing the problem.
As for the Chateau Cardboard, that 20 carat silver lining should resist anything, except dero'sStupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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19th December 2006, 11:25 AM #4
Struth Iain.... don't tell 'her inside'
Next thing we know, the bloody cupboards will all have to be glass & the weetbix packet will have to be glass...... Hmmmm idea forming....
Has anybody tried making glass lingerie... just a passing thought.Cliff.
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19th December 2006, 11:30 AM #5
Wicked Weasel make something close to that Cliff
Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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19th December 2006, 11:50 AM #6
What little cardboard things of jelly? That sounds quite crook. Must be an OZ thingee.
Cheers,
Bob
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19th December 2006, 11:50 AM #7
Haven't thought of making that before Cliff. Clearly a good idea though, and I like the way you're thinking!
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19th December 2006, 11:56 AM #8
What are you calling jelly? not what we call jam, that sticky sweet goop that goes on toast.
Jelly here comes in crystal form and is made up by adding boiling water then allowed to cool and set, tyhe Poms on the other hand use a concentrated jelly block which is dissolved in boiling water, diluted then allowed to set.
Casn we help it that the rest of the world are wrongStupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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19th December 2006, 12:19 PM #9
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19th December 2006, 12:42 PM #10
Hi Iain, Where I worked at the last place, we would receive batteries from the USA in chipboard boxes with health warnings stamped all over them about the release of urea formaldehyde gas and the effects on the lungs etc really bad for young people, rang the state health mob to see why no warnings on the local stuff, answer don’t know don’t bother us, it must be OK its on the market, rang a supplier of the chipboard and yes same composition as USA stuff but not required to be stamped with a warning in Australia.<O
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We have a safety bulletin we can send you if you like, yes please. It contained about the same information as the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 /><st1:country-region><ST1USA</st1:country-region> stamped boxes . If used in internal buildings it should be sealed /painted etc . Some effects were rashes and breathing problems sore eyes if exposed to the released fumes etc really bad for kids. I thought this is crap most kids furniture is made of this stuff, bookshelf’s tables cupboards etc. Rang the manufacturer, yes should be sealed but not our responsibility, the old story not us someone else,so gave up and never used it in my house where I could avoid it,and what I did have, made sure it was sealed well ………..Peter
</OLast edited by ozwinner; 19th December 2006 at 01:43 PM. Reason: office tags
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19th December 2006, 01:06 PM #11
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19th December 2006, 01:06 PM #12Jelly here comes in crystal form and is made up by adding boiling water then allowed to cool and set
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19th December 2006, 02:11 PM #13
Cancer board
It depends where the board is manfactured.
If it is made in Australia it has to comply to the Australian Standards that specify only a certain level of formaldehyde is present in the board.
It seems that imported board products don't have to comply to the same standards - something to do with the fact that they are technically already "cut and sealed".
I previosuly posted a thread about this topic here:
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f80/imported-vs-local-33289
Cheers,
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19th December 2006, 11:21 PM #14
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20th December 2006, 12:10 AM #15Cliff.
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