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    Default Wood shrinking

    Hi all,

    Im new to woodworking and started off trying to fix up some old second hand furniture. I've been slowly learning the basics over the last few months.

    Today I noticed that a wooden table and church pew I sanded back and coated in Tung Oil have wood shrinkage. The bench had been stored under a house but the table was in use. Ive since been reading up on wood movement / shrinking so understand why it happens.

    Any ideas on what I can do to prevent this happening in the future? Im also curious if anyone knows how commercial furniture/tables avoid this. Ive not noticed wood shrinking in tables from standard furniture stores.

    Here's the table. I had disassembled it and put it back together with no gaps then applied tung oil.
    table.jpg

    Heres the old church pew. This one I didn't disassemble, just sanded and oiled
    pew.jpg

    Any help appreciated.

    Thanks,

    David

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    The timber needs to be glued together so the whole top will move as one. Commercial furniture moves as well - most mass produced stuff is MDF/Plywood/Particleboard/honeycomb paper construction so movement is much less of an issue. But the solid timber stuff will move. The effects are minimized by how the furniture is built (eg frame and panel) or just ignored.

    Edit: As for how you can stop it moving in future, you can't. Laminating the boards together will allow the whole table top to move as one but if the joinery isn't correct, you could end up with boards splitting as they're unable to move. Come summer you'll find the gaps between your boards disappear as they expand due to the humidity.

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    Thanks for your help. I will keep an eye on the table, see how the wood changes.

    Ive done some research and can see how I assembled it wrong. I glued the table boards onto the box frame the legs are part of. So the wood cant really move much except away from each board.

    David

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    Welcome to the Forum, David.

    Twenty five years ago I built a small deck from treated pine and the local council insisted that I space the boards 6.35mm apart - yep, they quoted two decimal places, and they sent around an inspector to verify that I had complied! The timber shrank and the gaps are now up to 20mm wide.

    Deck.JPG

    Timber will expand and shrink with changes in moisture or humidity. You just have to learn how to live with it; you cannot fight it. Good design allows for this movement; poor design falls apart.

    Different timbers move at different rates. These are quantified in standard references such as:
    • Keith Bootles, Wood in Australia, McGraw-Hill, and
    • the online Wood Database - The Wood Database

    Just keep reading about how to deal with wood movement. And look closely at furniture to see what techniques have been used. For example, with table tops there are several attachment methods that allow the wood to slide a little to cope with movement.

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    As other have said, you can't prevent wood movement. But you can adopt strategies to minimise the effects.

    Apart from proper design to accommodate movement (lots of info on these forums & elsewhere on this topic), you should allow the timber to acclimate before you begin construction.

    Ideally, let the wood sit in an environment that is the same (or as close to same as possible) as the final destination that the piece will be living in PRIOR to construction.

    Minimum time to acclimate for already well seasoned timber would be 3 - 4 weeks, but the longer the better.

    So, for example - don't build something in a shed that is hot and humid, then move it into an air conditioned home and expect it to remain stable. The wood will move.

    Alternatively (if you have not got a controlled environment in the shed - many don't) acclimate the wood in the final destination, e.g. in the house, then mill & construct it very quickly in the shed, and move it back into the final destination as soon as possible, and also between processes.
    For example, you could:
    1. mill the timber in shed on the weekend, then move timber into the house during the week.
    2. Next weekend cut joinery & dry assemble, then move it back into house.
    3. The following weekend glue up in shed, then move into house to dry.
    4. Final weekend, move it to shed to apply finish, then move it back into house ASAP.

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