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15th March 2004, 11:53 AM #1
Logo Punch
Hey all,
Just a quick question. Does anyone know where to have a logo made up into a punch-like tool, so that one could punch their logo into their work? Nothing huge, maybe 35-40mm2. Also, what would this cost?
Cheers.
Wad.
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15th March 2004, 12:58 PM #2
I don't know of a punch but there is a branding iron at
Lee Valley which may be of some help. I would be interested to hear from those that have one ..... it says that it is intended for use with a propane torch, they reach working temperatures of 800° to 900° F in 2 to 3 minutes. Is it possible to use a flame attachment thingy to a standard BBQ LPG bottle?
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15th March 2004, 01:06 PM #3
Thanks Sir Stinkalot,
What you have mentioned is close, but I was thinking of a custom designed iron like the one Lee Valley has, except not for branding, rather punching. Like the one's used in leatherwork. Can custom designed irons like this be made?
Cheers.
Wad.
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18th March 2004, 12:50 PM #4Senior Member
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I have thought of this before, but never followed it up.
Try a blacksmith, there are some very talented people around albeit in limited numbers. Check your yellow pages.
Glen
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18th March 2004, 02:27 PM #5
I looked into "brands" for stamping onto the bottom of burl bowls I do. There are a couple of places in Oz but they deal mainly with cattle brands and dont like little ones. Lee Valley was the best option but in the end I got a rubber stamp made and just use indellible ink.
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18th March 2004, 10:10 PM #6
Woodwad,
Take a look at the following link
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product...7&segment_id=4
They have a 38 bit stamp device which may help.
Cheers
SpikeCitizen of the world
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18th March 2004, 11:34 PM #7
Colen Clenton uses a stamp on all his tools, perhaps he could assist you.
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19th March 2004, 12:19 AM #8GOLD MEMBER
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A logo punch has a fair surface area and if you wanted to just stamp it onto timber it is likely only to work in very soft timber or end grain and only on flat surfaces. I wouldn't like to punch the base of a turned hollow vessel for fear of it shattering to pieces. This is why commercial marking are either branded or inked. If you still want to follow up on a punch then an engraving works is the place to start to have a die made.
Cheers,
Rod
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19th March 2004, 12:19 PM #9
Thanks to everyone who replied.
May need to try blacksmith, engraver or the like.
Happy woodworking,
WoodWad.
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21st March 2004, 08:52 PM #10
Hi Woodwad, is saw this site advertised in a mag' and thought of you.
http://www.brandingirons.net/
Also try this...
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...branding+irons
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24th March 2004, 08:48 PM #11senior
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logo punch
i used to do a bit of leather carving once and any punches/tools that had any size to them (1/4"sq upwards) needed a fairly hefty whack with the mallet to get a good impression,that was on a solid block or bench with a piece of 1/2" cement sheet underneath. i'd go for a brand or stamp.
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25th March 2004, 08:05 PM #12
in the 90's when working with a furniture making firm in Melb. we did a fair amount of research into the branding iron style of things - making the brand in cast iron, then heating it over a fire, we soon discovered the thing lost far too much heat far too fast to be really effective on more than one piece and even then the result was only marginal, which is something this firm couldnt live with..... we then tried to do the "pressure" thing - also unsuccessfully as the hammer used never seemd to apply the stamp evenly...... I then recall suggesting a press of some kind though it was deemed inappropriate due to the varying sizes of items to be stamped - this was mostly on Messmate, ironbark or Redgum. Nothing proved effective as a permanent and clear brand, so we opted for a 180mmX90mm piece of clear Perspex under which was placed a "cert of authenticity" - this was fixed under a table or at the back of a cabinet. I believe this is still in use.
Just offeringn this as the trouble you go to may not achieve the hoped for results.... hope it does though, because done right and with class it would be a ripper
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26th March 2004, 10:48 AM #13
Punch or Branding Iron?
I have a small shooting board made by Micheal Connor Woodwork upon which he has his brand punched in. At the wood show in Brisbane a couple of years ago I asked him where he got his punch, and it was from a place in Seventeen Mile Rocks (in Brisbane). I can't find anything in the Brisbane yellow pages, but why not e-mail him? I recall it was quite expensive - around A$400 I think.
Since Micheal makes shooting boards and workbenches, a punch is quite OK, but I wouldn't like to punch into the base of a small rosewood box, for example. For this reason I thought a branding iron should be better.
I could find no one in Australia that makes branding irons (apart from cattle branding irons, made from wire - not suitable). In fact, one place I called asked me that if I did find anyone in Australia that makes such branding irons to please let them know - they apparently get quite a lot of calls. Two places in USA do, however:
BrandNew Industries located in California, and High Noon Woodworks located in Nebraska. I ended up buying an iron from High Noon - cost US$224 including shipping. This was a custom iron made to graphics that I supplied. Both Brandnew and HighNoon have "Standard" designs that are cheaper that might suit you. I can't tell you if it is any good because it hasn't arrived yet (only ordered about 2 weeks ago).
Hope this helps
Ian R.
P.S. You can get gas heated and electric. The electric irons are apparently more consistent, but coming from the USA are in 110V (I think BrandNew will supply at 240V). 110V is OK for me because I have quite a lot of 110V stuff from when I used to live in USA.There is no lack of skill or talent that cannot be compensated for by some jig or machine.
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1st April 2004, 04:44 PM #14
Re: Logo Punch
Originally posted by WoodWad
maybe 35-40mm2.
Do you mean 35-40 square millimetres OR 35-40 x 35-40 millimetres square?
If the first, then you mean 5mm x 7mm - 5mm x 8mm, then you should be able to get a commercial engraver to make something for you.
If you mean the latter and something 35mm x 35mm that would be somewhat difficult to punch into wood as a logo, unless that logo is fairly simple in design.
Though I guess a logo of this size could be "pressed" into your creations. Hmmm? must file that idea away for future reference )
Your next step then is to make a hydaulic press )
Contact a local "industrial" engraver, ie NOT the local keyring guy, and discuss your needs. Bear inmind of course that your logo would need to be given to the engraver in a negative form, so that you have the part you need to punch /press into the wood. Most (if not all) engravers work with CNC engravers now. You just supply them with an image and away they go...
Kind regards
Peter
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1st April 2004, 04:52 PM #15
Re: Logo Punch
Originally posted by WoodWad
Does anyone know where to have a logo made up into a punch-like tool, so that one could punch their logo into their work?
Just had another thought! Instead of a punch, perhaps you could consider the same type of badge they use on computers these days. A 1" square of plastic with the image under a layer of clear acrylic.
In your case maybe you could have rounded corners so that you could route a recess (a la pc cases) and not worry about the pc case style square corners, or maybe even try for a round "badge", then a small forstener bit would create your recess.
Hmmm! Take another mental note on this idea too )
regards
Peter