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    Default Look how smart I am !!!

    I have never made a secret mitred dovetail before so I attempted my first on and here are the photos.

    This was prompted by a recent thread and my continuing insistance for people to give hand cut dovetails a go - drink my own medicine.

    Sturdee also made a remark recently about telling people what he was going to do and then felt compelled to follow through.

    So I took heaps of photos at every step of the way - gee I was proud until :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

    It was doomed from the start wasn't it. I am mad at myself for not seeing the obvious but all is not lost, I did learn a few good techniques (apart from marking out)

    I will post photos of my second attempt when I next get time.

    Anyone got a recipe for humble pie?
    - Wood Borer

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    Gives ya the ****s don't it.

    I hope ya think yer not the first indyvidal to make this stuff up.

    A greenie for the efforts, another if I was allowed for showing the results.
    Boring signature time again!

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    Oops!

    Top marks for showing it anyway.
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    You're a brave man, Rob!

    I've made that particular stuff up with a normal through dovetail, never mind a secret mitre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood Borer
    Anyone got a recipe for humble pie?
    Youve come to the right place Mister, as I am the King of humble pie.

    Al

    Ps, why bother to make secret DT's, who the hell will ever know if you did or didnt????. :confused:

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    I've been thinkin'. I bet that joint just sits togteher neater 'an a greased pole up a pigs rrs, Why doncha just glue it up an' tell folks it's a secret dovetailed mitre joint, ya aren't lyin' really.
    Boring signature time again!

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    Or ...

    You could just reinforce your mitre joint with biscuits, glue it with epoxy, and you will have saved yourself a lot of time and effort. But then, I realize that dark-siders get off on pain and humiliation, as Leopold von Sacher-Masoch discovered

    Rocker

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    ah, don't worry about it.......I've never bothered with them.......I mean, arn't dovetails supposed to be showed off anyway.........hidden away like that....nobody would never know..........

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    Rob, I applaud your strength. Kudos to you for investing the time in true woodworking skill instead of jig building or "finding a better way". and kudos especially for letting us learn from a mistake. I'd give you 20 greenies if i could, but alas i can't give you any. but i will vote for woodborer in the "woodworking idol" competition.
    -Ryan

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    Hi Rob, so would these be the Fred Flintstone Secret Dovetails??? Sounds like you had a good time and learnt lots. You are gamer than me, I haven't dared try dovetails yet.

    cheers
    RufflyRustic

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufflyrustic
    I haven't dared try dovetails yet.
    Wendy, there's a challenge for you just waiting to be conquered.

    I am going to beat the secret mitred dovetail and I reckon the sense of achievement will be even greater since my first dismal attempt.

    I have conquered the most difficult part of the secret mitred dovetail exercise - building up the nerve to attempt it. The rest of it follows naturally with the odd hiccup along the way.

    You should give the through dovetails a go - they aren't all that difficult. Just remember to mark them out correctly
    - Wood Borer

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    Borer,

    I must admit the whole concept of the secret mitred dovetail is quite exciting.

    It's the retrospectivity of it all that has the greatest potential.

    I'm thinking of doing just one, keeping it somewhere casually obvious, so that I can explain to visitors:

    "Oh that's a secret mitred dovetail, that's how I make every joint in timber, I only keep that lying around to explain that what looks like plain ordinary old butt joins are really as strong as they would have been if I'd glued them with epoxy!"

    Or maybe you could send me one??

    Cheers,

    P

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    Good one, Mate! Top points for the attempt. I look forward to seeing the successful conclusion of this journey.

    By the way, when I looked at the first pic, my mind played tricks on me. Have a look - imagine the pins are the cut out portion and vise versa - it's an optical illusion that makes the pins look "twisted". Can you see it? I actually have to concentrate to view it the correct way.

    Well done - a twisted secret mitred dovetail joint - I bet it's a first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by outback
    I've been thinkin'. I bet that joint just sits togteher neater 'an a greased pole up a pigs rrs, Why doncha just glue it up an' tell folks it's a secret dovetailed mitre joint, ya aren't lyin' really.
    trouble is technically it's a secret mitred SHOVEtailed joint

    top marks for showing it though

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPB
    it's an optical illusion that makes the pins look "twisted". Can you see it? I actually have to concentrate to view it the correct way.
    I know what you mean Don. I showed some people at work this morning and I had trouble figuring it out myself.


    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge
    Or maybe you could send me one??
    No probs when I learn how to do them.
    - Wood Borer

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