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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironwood View Post
    Hi Mick, the pieces you show are cut somewhere between backsawn and quartercut. For someone trying to replicate that pattern, it would help to see the end grain of the pieces, to see what angle the medullary rays are running in relation to the cut faces.
    Crocy probably has a good idea already, having already cut some bits.
    Though for other curious minds it would help.
    Fortunately I'm at the farm at the moment so I've just been over to the shed to take a pic.

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    I think the grain is running about 30-40 degrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Croc View Post
    Hi Mick, Fumbler and Ian. I am ok, CAT scan showed nothing sinister, so they think I have something called Colitis, so after that they gave me a drug to do some clotting. After many more tests to check Red Cell count and Haemoglobin levels they said I need an urgent Colonoscopy to confirm that. Well urgent means next Tuesday, all the specialists and hospitals are booked out due to the Covid backlog.
    Hi Croccy,
    It's now almost Thursday.
    How did Tuesday's colonoscopy go?

    Or would you prefer not to say ??
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    The curse of age. By the time you are old enough to start to be sensible and know things the body starts to break.

    I envy the 20yo people who know nothing, think they know everything and still wake up without pains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    Hi Croccy,
    It's now almost Thursday.
    How did Tuesday's colonoscopy go?

    Or would you prefer not to say ??
    Hi Ian,
    Well it was not what they thought, apparently something nicked the Colon on a right angle bend and there were a bundle of small arteries that were bunched up and one was damaged. All healed up now, but I have to get a special CAT scan done to look at the arteries and they may have to go back in and burn some of them away. She said I may have had a bone fragment or a seed of some sort to do the damage. She said that the most common cause of this type of damage are fish and lamb bone fragments. Anyway I am almost back to normal, so back to that elusive hunt for the matching piece of Silky Oak.
    Rgds,
    Crocy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Croc View Post
    Anyway I am almost back to normal, so back to that elusive hunt for the matching piece of Silky Oak.
    Rgds,
    Crocy.
    Good to hear, Crocy. I don't know that much about timber biology but I suspect that the darker growth rings in the end grain may be the key to identifying the same figure on other pieces.

    I really appreciate your efforts. It sounds like you might have a fair pile of Silky in your shed.

    mick

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    Glider, I am sorry, but I have tried my best to get a matching piece for you and I have not achieved it. I got the swimming fish, the length, the thickness, but only 175mm wide. Unfortunately all my quadrants are from too small of a log and the medullary rays swirl around unlike your piece that came from a big log. I have turned over every piece of NSO that I have and believe me, that's a lot of wood, but no avail. I have another timber storage, but I am not sure what I have in it, but I will be going down there is a few weeks time so I will keep looking.
    Rgds,
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    P.S. not knowing what you are making, could you laminate two thinner boards? I probably have the length and width in a thinner board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Croc View Post
    P.S. not knowing what you are making, could you laminate two thinner boards? I probably have the length and width in a thinner board?
    Thanks again, Crocy. The short answer is that I can certainly laminate two thinner boards. The drawer fronts are about 20mm thick and I would probably put two thinner pieces together into my vacuum bag.

    About 10 years ago I made this campaign desk from which I'm currently writing. It was early in my woodworking hobby so I made the odd mistake which most people can't see, but I can. So I decided to make another one, hopefully without any blues this time. I'm planning to do a WIP thread when I'm finished.

    Rather than using the cup style drawer pulls, I'm using flush pulls which require cutting a recess and that's what I mucked up on the first drawer front. I've now worked out how to do it better, touch wood.

    Old Campaign Desk - side view.jpg Old Campaign Desk - Drawer detail.jpg Old Campaign Desk - Corner view.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glider View Post
    Thanks again, Crocy. The short answer is that I can certainly laminate two thinner boards. The drawer fronts are about 20mm thick and I would probably put two thinner pieces together into my vacuum bag.

    About 10 years ago I made this campaign desk from which I'm currently writing. It was early in my woodworking hobby so I made the odd mistake which most people can't see, but I can. So I decided to make another one, hopefully without any blues this time. I'm planning to do a WIP thread when I'm finished.

    Rather than using the cup style drawer pulls, I'm using flush pulls which require cutting a recess and that's what I mucked up on the first drawer front. I've now worked out how to do it better, touch wood.

    Old Campaign Desk - side view.jpg
    Hi mick
    just a comment on your proposed rebuild of that campaign style desk
    I don't think a single short piece (280 x 200 x 20) of sliky will look right. It will appear to be another "obvious -- at least to you -- mistake".

    The drawer fronts should all come from the same board so that the grain is continuous across the piece.
    without seeing the boards Crocy has already cut, I'm guessing more than one will be suitable for that purpose you require -- just that the length will need to be enough for four drawer fronts.


    BTW
    around the time my parents married in 1952 they acquired a bedroom set made from southern silky oak where the drawer "pulls" had been made using a lathe to turn the whole drawer front so that the pull could be recessed into the front.
    (At least using a lathe to spin the whole drawer front is the only way I could see that the pulls could be made.)
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Croc View Post
    Hi Ian,
    Well it was not what they thought, apparently something nicked the Colon on a right angle bend and there were a bundle of small arteries that were bunched up and one was damaged. All healed up now, but I have to get a special CAT scan done to look at the arteries and they may have to go back in and burn some of them away. She said I may have had a bone fragment or a seed of some sort to do the damage. She said that the most common cause of this type of damage are fish and lamb bone fragments. Anyway I am almost back to normal, so back to that elusive hunt for the matching piece of Silky Oak.
    Rgds,
    Crocy.
    Crocy, I’m just SO glad there’s no bones in Shiraz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Croc View Post
    P.S. not knowing what you are making, could you laminate two thinner boards? I probably have the length and width in a thinner board?
    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    Hi mick
    I don't think a single short piece (280 x 200 x 20) of sliky will look right. It will appear to be another "obvious -- at least to you -- mistake".

    The drawer fronts should all come from the same board so that the grain is continuous across the piece.
    without seeing the boards Crocy has already cut, I'm guessing more than one will be suitable for that purpose you require -- just that the length will need to be enough for four drawer fronts.
    Hi Ian,

    I agree that all four drawer fronts must come from a single board. From Crocy's message, I understood that he had some timber long and wide enough but too thin to use without laminating it to thickness. It may be that Fletty has some "swimming fish" figured Silky that I can use. I'm just waiting for him to confirm with some pics.

    The flush drawer pulls are about 90W x 50H and require a cavity exactly 3.2mm deep and 7mm wide around their perimeters. The centre has to be at least 12 mm deep to accommodate the recess. I have made four pine replicas which will enable me to set up the router accurately for the outer section. The inner recess can be hogged out with Forstner bits. At least, that's Plan B having now rejected chisels and mallet owing to the tendency of the timber to splinter along its grain.

    Unfortunately, my philosophy of stretching existing skills with each piece has its downside but that's the challenge of woodworking. There's a wealth of knowledge on this forum and in my experience it's shared freely and with goodwill.

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    Im afraid mine is more like plankton bloom than swimming fish ......... but I do have quite a lot of it?
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    Here is the best I can do, the one with my thumb is the backing board and the other 2 are for your choice. they are 9.5 MM thick and with the backing board it will glue up to over the 20mm you require. I agree with the comments about it should all be the same but the original boards were from a large log.
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    Thanks, Crocy. Not exactly the swimming fish but attractive enough to use.

    I'll send you a PM.

    mick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glider View Post
    Fortunately I'm at the farm at the moment so I've just been over to the shed to take a pic.

    Figured Silky End Grain.jpg

    I think the grain is running about 30-40 degrees.

    mick
    I'm not all that convinced that you have NSO Northern Silky Oak Cardwellia sublimis . It looks like "Lacewood" Roupala brasiliensis.

    Do the medullary flecks appear to have a golden halo around them??
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    The medullary rays are surrounded by a rich reddish gold colour. The timber was bought from either Anagote or possibly Trend Timber in Sydney and sold as Silky Oak. I would be surprised if local timber merchants were selling an imported product in place of a species readily available here, but anything's possible I suppose.

    Here are a couple of closeups.

    Lacewood Maybe 1.jpg Lacewood Maybe 2.jpg

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