Thread: What machine causes this texture ?

Hmmm, dunno about a cold roller or any other kind of repetitive pattern (and what a shocker of a video to promote their product - I'm still dizzy - not a single image of the finish).

There's a couple of clues in the pic that Jake posted, that seem to indicate brushing or similar. Firstly, the title of the pic is "burnished wide pine", unless Jake named it that.

Second, have a look at the two little knots. They have a bit of a wall of remaining wood around them, which would be consistent with some kind on abrasion. The bottom one also has a small chip out of what I presume would be the trailing edge of whatever abraded it - possibly also consistent with abrasion.

Finally, and I think most significantly, if it was cold-rolled or any other kind of pressing, how did they get the pattern to match up perfectly with both of those knots, to leave the wall around them? A pic of a longer piece would certainly prove if there was pattern repetition or not (from a roller).

So, I'd say wire/nylon brush, maybe shell/sand blasting (but that wouldn't have chipped out the trailing edge I wouldn't think).

Seems others offer a similar product:
This blog mentions Stone source
http://creativefuel.frch.com/2009/06...eclaimed-wood/
But their current page doesn't seem to mention it:
http://www.stonesource.com/wood/reclaimed-wood
But the wayback machine has a few more images.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100629...imed_wood.html
Looks like wire wheel work.

George Bush mentions burnished pine in this interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ759wdaLKE

saw something vaguely similar today on a piece of 4 x 2 that's been out in the weather the past few years .
I didn't pick the piece of wood up, but it looks very much like the early (or late) wood had swollen to the point where the grain lines on the exposed face looked like veins -- I'm guessing the result of repeated wetting–drying or fungus or rot in the softer wood

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

Hmmm, dunno about a cold roller or any other kind of repetitive pattern (and what a shocker of a video to promote their product - I'm still dizzy - not a single image of the finish).

There's a couple of clues in the pic that Jake posted, that seem to indicate brushing or similar. Firstly, the title of the pic is "burnished wide pine", unless Jake named it that.

Second, have a look at the two little knots. They have a bit of a wall of remaining wood around them, which would be consistent with some kind on abrasion. The bottom one also has a small chip out of what I presume would be the trailing edge of whatever abraded it - possibly also consistent with abrasion.

Finally, and I think most significantly, if it was cold-rolled or any other kind of pressing, how did they get the pattern to match up perfectly with both of those knots, to leave the wall around them? A pic of a longer piece would certainly prove if there was pattern repetition or not (from a roller).

So, I'd say wire/nylon brush, maybe shell/sand blasting (but that wouldn't have chipped out the trailing edge I wouldn't think).

Good point. maybe.

Maybe they did it with different grades of brushing.

What gets me, is the great number of valleys, and how closely arranged they are. With the brushing results I've got, never have they resembled that. Maybe because its conifer ? And there seems to be no consistency with the early and late wood.

Thinking now maybe its happened from two brushing passes. Brush one direction, then again in reverse direction.

OR….

a combination of brush and pressing is being done.

A thought I had was the pressing possibly is done with irregular pieces made out of hard rubber, over metal. The rubber pressing around the hard points (knots). Hard rubber with a little heat and moisture may leave a tearless result…….and then maybe a fine brushing your talking about or walnut blasting to give the burnished look. (though I would suspect they would choose a brushing over a harder to contain blasting process if they had a choice)

Just feel there is more going on than just a brushing or walnut blasting treatment.

Be great to actually see it done. I'm surprise its not described better somewhere.

Do like George Bushes description of it all though. Especially bamboo. Poor bamboo.

Maybe a very thin brush for the first pass to get the narrower valleys?

Originally Posted by apricotripper

Do like George Bushes description of it all though. Especially bamboo. Poor bamboo.

I wish someone would take to George Bush's feet with bamboo - George Dubbya, that is.

This is some of the first wire wheel finish I ever did.

I is very old pine cornice from a demolition yard.

I 'recycled' this cornice into a mirror frame more than 18 years ago.

Oiled with Penetrol. http://www.floodaustralia.net/produc...l_wood_oil.php

Here are some pieces of good old Aussie hardwood.

Wire wheeled & oiled with Penetrol.

These pieces are nearly 20 years old.

Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers

This is some of the first wire wheel finish I ever did.

I is very old pine cornice from a demolition yard.

I 'recycled' this cornice into a mirror frame more than 18 years ago.

Oiled with Penetrol. http://www.floodaustralia.net/produc...l_wood_oil.php

Thanks for the pics Cliff. Do you feel your penetrol pine finish looks the same as the pine described as burnished at the start of the thread? Too me it looks different.

A guy I was talking to today spoke about Penetrol. Kinda coincidental. Wonder if you know him.. makes it hard to trust anyone this stuff.

I haven't used Penetrol at all in the last 5 or 6 years or maybe longer 'cos it goes off in the tin before I finish it.

I tried decanting it into smaller containers & putting glass marbles in to displace the air as I used it but it was a lot of mucking around for little gain.

The pine in the photos is certainly a different type of timber to the one in your photo & the hardwood is different again.

I posted them to show that it is possible to get a smooth finish off a wire wheel.

I do appreciate the photos Cliff. Not that it matters, but I really like the look of how you did the pine. And getcha on how wire brushing can polish.

Maybe your right. Like to see how they do it though.

Appreciate your thoughts on Penetrol. I was about to buy it….but won't now. Save me some dramas. ta.

Originally Posted by apricotripper

I do appreciate the photos Cliff. Not that it matters, but I really like the look of how you did the pine. And getcha on how wire brushing can polish.

Maybe your right. Like to see how they do it though.

Appreciate your thoughts on Penetrol. I was about to buy it….but won't now. Save me some dramas. ta.

Super Cheap and others sell the wire brush wheels pretty cheap. A Mans Toyshop here in Townsville & Rockhampton sell the nylon brush wheels even Bunnies http://www.bunnings.com.au/josco-100...brush_p6327589 http://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range.../drill-brushes

Penetrol is not bad if you use a lot of it but it is a bit slow to set really hard.

You can do a satin finish with it or you can build it up to almost gloss but that requires a dust free place to let it set.

The main reason I stopped buying it is because I couldn't use it up fast enough to stop it going gluggy in the can.

Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers

Penetrol is not bad if you use a lot of it but it is a bit slow to set really hard.

You can do a satin finish with it or you can build it up to almost gloss but that requires a dust free place to let it set.

The main reason I stopped buying it is because I couldn't use it up fast enough to stop it going gluggy in the can.

I see. ta

Originally Posted by Mobyturns

Super Cheap and others sell the wire brush wheels pretty cheap. A Mans Toyshop here in Townsville & Rockhampton sell the nylon brush wheels even Bunnies http://www.bunnings.com.au/josco-100...brush_p6327589 http://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range.../drill-brushes

ta. I av em already….thinking of texturing with one of those really coarse Brumby ones in the grinder…

Man's toyshop ?