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15th June 2013, 09:25 PM #1Intermediate Member
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How to mark a mortise on rough surface?
Hello everyone,
I am planning on making a kitchen island from recycled fence posts (any idea what the type of wood is anyone?) and I was going to use mortise and tenon joints but not the ones already there. I have wire brushed them and will be leaving them like this, I love the worn rough finish. I am very new to woodworking so I have been doing a lot of reading and researching and the one thing that stands out to me is making accurate and precise markings for tight strong joints and all the ones I have found during my researching have been marked out on nicely dressed wood. Seeing how this wood is very rough how would I make an accurate mortise mark? I don't have a mortise gauge yet but will be purchasing one. Will the mortise gauge wander when going over all the rough wood and if there is a tendency for this to happen is there a secret woodworkers trick you could tell me so that ill avoid this rookie error?
the top of the kitchen island/butchers block will be a meter of left over benchtop from my kitchen install. Any idea what type of wood the posts are?
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Cheers
Nick
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15th June 2013, 10:44 PM #2Member
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Maybe you could stick some tape on the timber, mark with pen then use chisel to cut through tape and mark timber? Not sure what you aim to build but keep in mind that you need to be able to clean all surfaces in kitchen pretty thoroughly so these rough surfaces may be a challenge. Give us some more detail on bench top material, planned finish and planned use and more ideas will flow. Cheers
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15th June 2013, 11:16 PM #3Intermediate Member
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Sorry Farmer Geoff I obviously wasn't very clear in my description. I have a 1m leftover piece of oak benchtop that was an off cut when I installed the kitchen. I will apply a food grade oil and use it as a chopping board/butchers block. I plan on using the recycled fence posts as the base frame for the island. I want the use mortise and tenon joints but was wondering if making accurate markings on the rough surface was possible or it won't really matter as ill have to make final fitting adjustments for a tight fit?
here is a photo of the top that ill be using. I also plan on putting in a couple of drawers.
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16th June 2013, 09:56 AM #4
Nick, there is not a remote chance of id'ing that wood in the rough, and only marginally more if it were cleaned up. If they are ex posts, they are most likely a eucalypt, which narrows you down to a couple of hundred possibilities. If they were cut locally, what's the most common species used in your locality? If they were brought from somewhere else, it's anyone's guess.....
It's not really a secret. The easiest way to use a marking gauge is to rest the beam on the wood, roll it 'til the points make contact, then push it away with the points dragging. You control the depth of the marks by how much downward pressure you apply to the points - it's better to make several light passes on rough stock like yours, as you are less likely to get wandering. Pushing the stock ('fence') firmly against the work is a must. Don't try to mark with the points held vertically, or near-vertically, as this increases the risk of the points going off-track. Pick the best sides of the posts & rails (i.e. straightest & cleanest) to mark from, as this will give you the most accuracy. By using marking gauges & working from 'show' sides, you should get pretty good accuracy, then it comes down to how neatly you can chop out the mortises & cut your tenons...
Cheers,IW
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16th June 2013, 02:42 PM #5Intermediate Member
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Thanks Ian much appreciated
I think ill practice some mortise and tenon joints on some scrap before doing these.
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