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    Question Which mechanical pencil or awl for Woodpecker's T-square?

    Been looking for the "perfect" T-square for a while and when I saw these Woodpecker's T's I had to get one; bit pricey but worth it IMO. Shout out to PWS for importing Woodpecker's gear.

    Measuring and Layout - Precision Woodworking T-Square 24"

    Problem is I can't use the sub-1mm holes for marking; none of my awls fit the holes, even the Veritas pin awl, and the only mechanical pencils I can find that'll fit the holes have such small leads (0.35mm) that the snap the second I try to drag a line.

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    Woodpecker have mechanical pencils to suit the T square don't they? I'd be surprised if the staedtler micro didn't suit. It comes in a 0.9mm version as well as 0.7 for about $10 at Officeworks. Can't help with the awl, sorry.

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    I've tried the all larger mechanical pencils, STAEDTLER Mars Micro, ROTRING, Pentel - nothing 0.7mm or higher fits.

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    They're 1mm holes, you're only trying to fit the lead in the hole not the pencil nib right? That's how the incra ones work with a 0.5mm and I assume this is the same.

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    I've got a Woodpecker Mech Pencil (I've got their rulers and Square) at the workshop, its a 0.9mm lead.

    its a twist mech pencil, ill have to look at the pointy end tomorrow, I'm not sure if the metal lead retainer is extended past the pencil head.

    Im sure it just the .9mm lead that extends, will let you know tomorrow with some pics

    Good choice on the T Square, not cheap, but nice to use.

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    Ah. Yes, I assumed the nib had to seat in the hole - didn't even think it would work extending the lead that far through the hole but if it's 0.9mm then it might not snap when extended that far. Will try it.

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    It was on the page you linked to.
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    Yeah I know didn't make sense as I've tried a 0.9mm mechanical pencil with no luck but I'll persist.

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    No pencil really gives an accurate line. They are all too thick/wide. If you are looking for real accuracy I suggest that you get yourself a real square - like one of Colen Clenton's superb adjustable/correctable squares and one of his marking knives (hntgordon.com.au). Chris Vesper, another Australian tool maker, also produces some superb items (vespertools.com.au). Both makers produce items that are a pleasure to look at and to use. Fiddly Yank stuff, no thanks. Canadian, that is different - some great Veritas items too, but not as superbly beautiful and lovely to use as Clenton and Vesper IMHO.

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    Staedtler mechs work just fine, just get the .5mm versions. Use them all the time with my Incra rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthorrhoeas View Post
    No pencil really gives an accurate line. They are all too thick/wide. If you are looking for real accuracy I suggest that you get yourself a real square - like one of Colen Clenton's superb adjustable/correctable squares and one of his marking knives (hntgordon.com.au). Chris Vesper, another Australian tool maker, also produces some superb items (vespertools.com.au). Both makers produce items that are a pleasure to look at and to use. Fiddly Yank stuff, no thanks. Canadian, that is different - some great Veritas items too, but not as superbly beautiful and lovely to use as Clenton and Vesper IMHO.
    You can't use a CC or CV square like an oversize marking gauge and if you want REAL accuracy, a Starrett No.20 should do the trick; tolerance of 1/60,000

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    I have the Woodpeckers saddle square. I use a Pentel .5 MM pencil with HB lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elanjacobs View Post
    and if you want REAL accuracy, a Starrett No.20 should do the trick; tolerance of 1/60,000
    There comes a point in woodwork - and in life - where you realize that there is no point in striving for tolerances tighter than what you can cut.

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    I agree entirely. I'm perfectly happy with my $40 Irwin square, the Starrett only comes out for machine setup. It's the same with a digital readout on a thicknesser that goes to 2 decimal places; natural movement will give you errors great than that over night

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    Yeah I'm more after the convenience of drawing a straight line half a metre out from the edge, but with a liiiittle more precision than a chalk snapline

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