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21st July 2007, 12:34 AM #1Intermediate Member
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Noise Issue
Hello all,
Great forum, I've been lurking for a while.
I'm thinking about setting up a work shop at home, and I'm a little concerned about possible noise complaints from the neighbours.
I'll mostly be working with a bandsaw (ripping/resawing), and some table saw work. I can locate the saws in a brick granny flat to help cut the noise, but would prefer to put them in the shed. My nearest neighbours are about 15m from either. My question is, are table and band saws ok to use say, between noon and 4pm?? Will I get complaints? If so, any suggestions for fixing it, soundproofing? Also, I'm planning to put the dust extractor outside in an enclosure, will this be ok noise wise. Sorry about all the questions, it's been a while since highschool shop class. I don't want to buy the tools, and then have the epa tell me I can't use them.
So what do you guys think.
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21st July 2007, 01:13 AM #2
Your local jurisdiction most likely has regulations on noise pollution; time, decibels vs distance, etc. Also, never hurts to cultivate a cordial relationship with the neighbours. But not to the extent of lending tools, of course.
JoeOf course truth is stranger than fiction.
Fiction has to make sense. - Mark Twain
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21st July 2007, 05:51 AM #3
Welcome fatty!
I agree with Joe, I think's it will be much easier if you keep a good relationship with your neighbours. I think you shouldn't have problems with the bandsaw, the table saw maybe... but I believe that the jointer or a thickness planner can be louder. In any case, I think you should be able to work in non odd hours (make sure to have your tools sharpen, as that helps with noise reduction).
Are you going to work every day? If you are a weekend warrior, I think it shouldn't upset your neighbours. About noise reduction, I seem to believe that there was some posts here, you could try to search and see what it comes!
Good luck!
Mariano
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21st July 2007, 07:30 AM #4
It can be tricky I think. I've had problems in houses I've lived. Its not entirely obviously how loud they seem to others as well. Its really when the woods running through that their at their loudest.
The worst ones I think are routers. High speed tools.
I got complaints whilst using one of them mostly. My rule now is to only use during daylight hours, so I try and get all the timber prepartion done then.....anyway goodluck.
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21st July 2007, 11:43 AM #5
I'm with Joe, have a chat to your local council/ jurisdiction and find out their regulations. Atleast that way you know where you stand when it comes to abiding by the law and if you work within these regulations your covering your butt.
Also, it might pay to have a chat with you neighbors and find out their thoughts. Ask them to provide feedback on the noise and let them know that you'll work within the legal hours when it comes to making noise.
Hopefully they'll respect you for speaking to them and letting them know you'll do your best not to disturb them too much.
If they still complain and cause a stir atleast you tried to do the right thing, and you know that they are to$$ers. You should have the info from the council so if you follow the law then they have nothing on you.
This is what I'd do anyway.
Cheers,
EvanIt's better to be thought of as a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt!
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21st July 2007, 01:46 PM #6
Pretty good advice above. Ask the neighbours to let you know if there's ever a problem (better they come to you than the council). Also, let them know that if they ever want something made, you're happy to do it for them. Only ever had one (mild) complaint from a bloke whom I didn't know was working night shift - resolved amicably.
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22nd July 2007, 10:00 PM #7
Firstly, if you are not running a business, there is a lot less anybody can do.
But you prably wany to controll the noise anyway.
Selecting quiet machines is your first and best measure in noise reduction.
there are a lot of threads on this subject and a lot of ground that has already been covered.
check em out, then get back to us.
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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25th July 2007, 08:48 AM #8New Member
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I have recently set up my shed to do some furniture making and was concerned with the noise from some of my machinery. The noisiest are the ripsaw, thicknesser and router. I didn't want to get off-side with my neighbours so I approached them to see if the noise was bothering them and they said at times it was a little loud. I decided to spend the necessary money to insulate the shed using sound reducing insulation batts and plasterboard. The size of the shed is approx. 7 metres x 3 metres and cost about $700 but it was worth it because the reduction in noise level is better than 50% with some noise almost eliminated. I am also in SA and in the Tea Tree Gully council area zoned residential. I only work in the shed on week days and don't start until 0900 and always stop about 1400 and don't work on weekends. I think with what I have done to my shed and the hours I work I am being more than reasonable and would satisfy the EPA if it ever came to that stage!
Hope this gives you some clues on how to approach the situation.
Cheers Ferrous
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25th July 2007, 09:50 AM #9
ferrous... you will probay improve the situation if you introduce some absorption into the shed too.
check out this thread.https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...?t=7533&page=3
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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25th July 2007, 09:53 AM #10
ops you problay have
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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25th July 2007, 06:29 PM #11Awaiting Email Confirmation
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I live in quiet street and my neighbors mostly work, I have a good relationship with them. To keep on the good side I repaired a chair for one, made a box for another, but the noise can carry, especially from screaming routers, and hand held saws. So I have updated my workshop to induction type motors, reduces noise by 75% IMO. Also changed my method of making joints, i.e finger joints now cut with a dado on TS instead of Leigh jig and router.
I work between 9 am to 4 pm weekdays, weekends do gluing polishing etc
hope you don't have trouble with your neighbors.
les
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25th July 2007, 09:47 PM #12SENIOR MEMBER
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Roofing blanket
Well... when the contractors built my shed they didn't put any insulation in at all.. so I've got bare tin walls and a bare tin roof...
Next door neighbour having his shed built this week... and they're putting this batt-type stuff under the roof sheets. It has a silver lining that goes inside the shed...
Is that what's called Roofing Blanket...
And can you put\stick it on the exposed part of the inside of the roof...
Or is there a better idea...
Ta
JedoWhen all the world said I couldn't do it - they were right...
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25th July 2007, 10:20 PM #13
yep thats roofing blanket.
It is best done before you screw the sheets down.
yeh you could glue it to the underside of the sheets but thats a pig of a way to do it and the blanket would be more expensive I think.
I am real keen on gluing insulation material to the inside of sheets with spray cantact adhesive.... but you realy do need to put something over the top for durability sake.
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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26th July 2007, 11:51 AM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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I was talking to an isulation supplier the other day and he mentioned that if you are lining the inside with Gyprock, use 13mm as opposed to 10mm. It apparently makes a noticable difference for only a slightly higher price.
Pedro
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26th July 2007, 12:17 PM #15
Yep Yep yep..... and more worthwhile that so called " acoustic product>
The fire retardent guprock ( supafirechek) is also better because it is denser
The amount of difference will still be small.
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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