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18th June 2021, 12:55 AM #46
Julie, all drill press table swing away from the centre. This is the reason I mentioned above that "my" design would have a square column, not a round one.
Is there a fix? I have been thinking about this for the past year. One of these days ...
Regarding the cast and iron table, it is not machined underneath. This is of little importance if you add a table above it. This is what I did ...
Regards from Perth
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18th June 2021, 10:12 AM #47SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Julie,
The photo's are sort of proof i own one I couldn't find one of the table before i added a top but the machining on the top surface is a good as any i have seen, there is no machining nor would i expect any on the underside.
With regards to the table moving side to side when lowering and raising this is normal for un-restrained rack and pinion setups as used on the Nova and for most drills using simple rack and pinion mechanisms. By un-restrained I mean the table doesn't move on a linear rail or keyed solution to stop rotational movement in xy.
With regards to the tilt adjustment, i've used this a few times and it's relatively easy but a pain with with the two bolts.... trick: only loosen both enough to allow you to move the table... not so far as to be able to jiggle it around.
The big bolt is an M16 so anything above 1/4 turn loose is probably too far... How i do it. 24mm socket and just break the M16 loose, Back the M6 locking screw out at least a turn (1mm) and see if the table will move, loosen the M16 till it does.. set the required angle, tighten the M16 back up and honestly I don't recall tightening the lock screw till i revert back to flat.
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Long story short, there is no solution (well no simply easy one) to the table moving in xy as you raise and lower is it is completely normal and expected it would do so based on the rack and pinion setup used.
Probably not what you wanted to hear but this still remains a stupidly awesome drill press.
Cheers
Phil
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18th June 2021, 10:22 AM #48GOLD MEMBER
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The Viking is an absolutely sensational drill press, and the auto start and depth limit settings are invaluable, but I also felt the table mechanism could have been a little more finessed, although it's workable and the top itself is nicely machined. The thing I really didn't understand though was that considering the table and parts are all machined to tolerances to fit, why wasn't the drill centred on the table hole.
It would have been extremely trivial to build this into the design and wouldn't have added any extra machining time as the offset just needed to be moved a few mm, which would then allow to fit chucks, jigs, etc dead centre.
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18th June 2021, 10:50 AM #49SENIOR MEMBER
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Well either they fixed it in later builds or you got a bad example as the Nova Viking I got last Nov seems to be centered, I can spin the table around 360 degrees with a pointer/pencil in the drill chuck and the point stays centered on a dot rather than if it was offset it would make a circle... all the measurements i took when i first got it said mine was centered.
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Phil
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18th June 2021, 11:01 AM #51SENIOR MEMBER
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I'll pull my wooden table top off over the weekend, i want to make a bigger one as well anyway and put a dial indicator on both the top insert hole and the table through hole to the mount arm ... both could still be off as the test i did above only checks the hole in the mount arm is centered under the chuck.
The hole can only ever be machined centered in the Y axis anyway.... if its centered in Y then you need to rotate the table around the column to center in X.
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Is it perpendicular to the chuck? This can be checked roughly but not precisely by putting a large drill in the chuck and placing a square on the table and up against the drill bit. A ground rod instead of a drill bit is the ultimate test but a drill bit gets it close.
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2nd July 2021, 07:15 PM #54
This thread might be a bit old but something came up on it that has been bugging the carp out of me for weeks! I've been using drill presses since I was a little tacker and cannot ever remember needing the table centred precisely under the quill. In my experience, all that matters is that the work piece is centred under the quill/bit - so at risk of sounding like a moron, what possible circumstances would require the table to be dead centre
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2nd July 2021, 07:41 PM #55SENIOR MEMBER
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Oh that's an easy answer... sort of... if you use the center hole in the table as an easy mount point for a live center type device especially for any action that imposes sideways force, ie sanding drums then it's far easier if that hole is centered.....
However in real life it may be easier to use an XY stage to hold that device anyway and no longer an issue.
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In most units I’ve used, there is a hole in the centre of the table. One purpose is to prevent damage to the table in case one accidently drills too deep.
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For me apart from the fact that it's just as easy to design it accurately as it is to design it out of spec, I want to be able to mount a lathe chuck in the recess, as I often have to drill items in the chuck accurately.
And if it ain't dead centre, apart from looking pretty bad, it then means I need to make up some sort of alignment jig to use the chuck, and while not a massive inconvenience, I have to make the effort each time it's used to ensure it's aligned properly!
Just an unnecessary waste of time really due to some thoughtless designing, but this is my only complaint about the Viking, apart from that it is absolutely sensational.
cheers, Ian
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5th July 2021, 11:14 AM #59Intermediate Member
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What size is the table attachment?
47mm?
I bought one of these - great GP table, esp for metal work. It’s 47mm, and needs “shimming” to fit the 48mm hole in my Trade Tools Pedestal Drill (Who’d have thought some were 47mm, and some are 48!?!
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7th July 2021, 11:21 AM #60
You didn't link to anything but I'm guessing you are talking about this table . . .
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I have one and also had to shim it up to fit my old Tradetools bench press but then had to turn a fraction off it to fit the Nova - wish these mobs would settle on a standard diameter!!!. They are a great item, very easy to clamp things down on them unlike the Tradetools standard table, and I keep it handy to the Nova but don't use it nearly as much as I did on the old drill press as the Nova table is also pretty easy to clamp things to.
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