Thread: Anyone have an opinion on these?

I just think you might be disappointed with saws of that price range... The basic jet contractor saw is 1000 so maybe that's a place to look at .

Originally Posted by ClintO

Pellcorp, I would be interested in your experiences with zero clearance inserts, I am about to try and make some for my 12 inch H&F SB12 saw

I created a couple out of mdf and used grub screws to level them. They work ok but you get maybe 5mm of mdf on the right side - not ideal but it kind of works

Thats what I was going to do, I get about 22-23 mm to the right of the blade on my saw.

Garfield, you will find plenty of saws that are good enough if that is your price range. I spent less than that on my secondhand SB12 and got 2 good blades, a mobile base and a carbatec tenoning jig thrown in

I haven't studied enough as yet and I'm not rushing to buy one, but when you say I won't get much for around the $1000 mark - what exactly do I miss out on?

I have an old Carba-tec 12" tablesaw (with sliding table). I think it is a 12KS, or something like that. Now about 15 years old.

You can see in the picture below that I have a zero-clearance insert. In fact I have several made from plywood for different blades and angles - a zero clearance insert for 90 degrees will not work when you want a 45 degree bevel cut.



Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by derekcohen

a zero clearance insert for 90 degrees will not work when you want a 45 degree bevel cut.
Regards from Perth

Derek

To quote Sam Newman " Reeeeeeeeely"

WOW.... I have no idea what that's all about lol. Is that what I miss out on if I was to get a saw under $1000?

Originally Posted by ClintO

Thats what I was going to do, I get about 22-23 mm to the right of the blade on my saw.

Garfield, you will find plenty of saws that are good enough if that is your price range. I spent less than that on my secondhand SB12 and got 2 good blades, a mobile base and a carbatec tenoning jig thrown in

So not all 12" saws are created equal then - my MBs 300 does not get that kind of gap to the right! I do have a zero clearance insert for my dado and it works and so far the thin strip of mdf has not broken off.

Garfield - I can't comment any further on what you can get for 1000. I spent 2600 and did not even look at saws less than 2000 so I can't say really.

Here is the zero clearance for the MBS300 - a pain in the #### that it's so close to the right but I have had the dado for a year and used it quite a bit and the mdf has not broke.

This would not work on a 12" blade on the MBS300 because the thin strip would not be supported to the front and back as much for the 8" dado

This would not work on a 12" blade because the thin strip would not be supported to the front and back as much for the 8" dado

This is the second time you say a zero clearance insert will not work on a 12" blade. Has there been some 12" tablesaw specification that I missed? I think you need to specify that it does not work on your tablesaw. I posted mine to show that it works without a fuss on cabinet style tablesaws.

There are many, many tablesaws out there to purchase. A viable option is used one - you will get a lot more for your $1000. Mine cost about $1500 15 years ago. Over the years the price remained the same but my impression was that the quality dropped to keep it there. Still, you could pick up one like mine for about $700-800. 2 hp and it has sawn a lot of thick Jarrah over the years.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Originally Posted by derekcohen

This is the second time you say a zero clearance insert will not work on a 12" blade. Has there been some 12" tablesaw specification that I missed? I think you need to specify that it does not work on your tablesaw. I posted mine to show that it works without a fuss on cabinet style tablesaws.

There are many, many tablesaws out there to purchase. A viable option is used one - you will get a lot more for your $1000. Mine cost about $1500 15 years ago. Over the years the price remained the same but my impression was that the quality dropped to keep it there. Still, you could pick up one like mine for about $700-800. 2 hp and it has sawn a lot of thick Jarrah over the years.

Regards from Perth

Derek

If you read my two recent posts completely you would see that I was talking about my MBS300 and that I was quite clear that this particular saw is different than other 12" saws. Read the posts before again please.

I edited my previous post just for you to make it obvious. I did not realise 12" saws were any different than my mbs300 but yours even has a rounded insert like a 10" saw.

What sort of ripping size are most of you getting on the table saw's in the $2500+ bracket?

garfield,
try looking on the Machines4u site, there are some 2nd hand industrial saws there, solid tables etc in your price range.

Wallnut

Thanks wallnut. I would just like to know what is a must in a table saw...

I haven't had a real good chance to read up heaps on the table saw threads yet, but what I have read is that to have a good TS you must have dado capability, Good fence and things that the casual woodworker wouldn't even know or think about + blah blah mechanics which I have no idea what so ever about.

What would be a good and must look for in TS for the common weekend woodworker that likes to make cabinets and basic furniture pieces? I have the Triton 2000 with the maxi slide and I like what it's capable of other than It's not the most accurate cut. So basically I want the Triton 2000 in a TS for around $1000... am I on the right track for the $1000 or under mark that I'm looking at?

Thanks