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  1. #16
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    Default Parliament Hinges

    I thank everyone for their replies. I have found some excellent information from the replies. I will use some of it to fit the hinges, so giving it a go myself rather than waiting 2 days for the so called experts. :eek:
    Regards ponce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen H
    The two experienced carpenters (not apprentices, but guys who had been in the trade for 20 yrs each) took two full days to hang the doors!! Lots of swearing about parliament hinges, and lots of grumbles about how much money they were losing...
    I did the same some years ago. At that stage I was still unsure of my own abilities, so used the pro's. My initial reaction was the same as yours, but the feeling moderated somewhat, when I spent the next several years rehanging the doors periodically, because they had been bodged up in the first place, by yobbos who had not understood the basic principles.

    Alastair

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    I'm probably being a bit unfair on the carpenters - they were subbies for the coy that sold me the doors. Their instructions were to install the doors in the old frames with a bit of additional framing supplied by the door maker. My guess is that the old frame was none too square, so they started at a disadvantage.

    Also, one of the carpenters said that the additional framing supplied by the door maker was too weak to hold a parliament hinge and both agreed that it'd only last a year or two before the hinge began to pull away from the frame. So they ended up reinforcing the frame. I'm grateful to them for having done that, after all they were only subbies who were supplied the material by the prime contractor so they didn't have any responsibility for the poor materials they were given.

    In fact, come to think of it, I probably owe them a slab as appreciation.

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    I suppose the only advice I can provide to the initial question is to be aware that a parliament hinge will pull on the frame, so make sure the screws holding the hinge to the frame go deep.

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    Oh, and another thing, because the stress on the hinges is greater, select hinges made of the hardest metal.

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    So (and I know this is a thread resurrection but please bear with me)....... I want to put in a door/gate to under my house. The stumps are treated cypress 125mm square, and the base boards are 150x25mm treated pine plinth boards. The gate needs to open out to a bit past 90 degrees. It'll be 1.05m x about 1.9m - so about 20kg once I have used up 11 or 12 horizontal to lne up with the base boards, vertical frames on each side and one diagonal. Bolted at every junction with one 60mm x 10mm coach bolt, after assembling with my fixing gun. The vertical next to the hinge of 90x45 H3 F7 framing. So if I use 2 solid brass parliament hinges that are 100mm tall and 125 or 150mm total width, it's all OK? Bunnings doesn't have them in gal, just zinc which they rate for indoors. It's on the south side of the house and not protected from weather. Have I underthought or overthought this, or is it about OK?

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    How often will it be maintained?
    Hinges generally do not get maintained, they get used, abused, wear and sometimes break.
    The big risk you face is the hinge seizing as they will be external and exposed to the the weather. (Think hot, cold, maybe freezing, wet, dry and condensate. Also risk of dirt.) I have seen galvanized gate hinges seized to the point that they break as people keep operating the gate. Regular lubrication could well prevent seizing.
    If they are brass should be less of a problem but I would not recommend zinc.

    Others may have a different opinion.

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    The hinge plates might be brass, but what's the pin made from?
    The extra cost of stainless steel (and it's not going to break the bank for 2 hinges) might be worth the peace of mind

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    Yes Elan, you might be right about those pins. I've kept looking, and my current best alternative is Aleko j-bolt hinges into pieces of steel angle bolted to the back of the gate. They're cheap items, just very expensive on freight from the US on eBay. The grease nipple would please Jack, too.

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