Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    52

    Default Planing Plywood Edges

    Hi all

    I'm building an "edge grain" plywood coffee table using birch ply.
    It's a simple design of laminating offset strips into box joints.
    Of course, the surface is slightly uneven. I've run the belt sander across it using 36 grit but it's both a slow process (sanding!) and also gives me relatively uneven results.

    So thinking about getting an electric planer... wanted one for years this could be the excuse

    Thing is, I've read both for/against comments on using a planer on edge grain of plywood, as it apparently dulls knives quickly.

    Any suggestions?
    Image of the current table top below, the legs are gluing up as I type.
    20200802_033500169_iOS.jpg

    Cheers

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    34
    Posts
    6,127

    Default

    The glue in plywood is very abrasive; as long as you use carbide blades it's not too bad, steel blades will die quickly though.

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    blue mountains
    Posts
    4,888

    Default

    Most electric hand held planers have carbide blades and are not expensive to replace. Buy a spare set with the plane. Pity you have sanded first so give it a good brushing or blow over with compressed air to remove grit. Take light cuts.
    Regards
    John

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    52

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by elanjacobs View Post
    The glue in plywood is very abrasive; as long as you use carbide blades it's not too bad, steel blades will die quickly though.
    Terrific, thanks. Will pick one up tomorrow (comes with TCT blades, so should be good)

    Quote Originally Posted by orraloon View Post
    Most electric hand held planers have carbide blades and are not expensive to replace. Buy a spare set with the plane. Pity you have sanded first so give it a good brushing or blow over with compressed air to remove grit. Take light cuts.
    Regards
    John
    Thank you! Yes that's the plan. Just have to figure out a way to ensure a level pass over the surface. I don't want a raised edge angling my cut.
    Thanks also for the tip about the dust. I'll make sure to get as much off as I can first.

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    blue mountains
    Posts
    4,888

    Default

    Use a strait edge and winding sticks to find the high spots and take them off first. This clip shows the process. It is using hand planes but the same rules apply.
    how to plane a table top flat - Google Search
    Handplanes would be best for the job but if you are not up to keeping them set up and sharp then electric can get it done. As I said take a very light cut as an electric plane can ruin a job like that fast if you go too hard. They also leave track marks so thats another reason to go light. In fact for a job like this think of it as a handplane. It will need sanding with lighter grits after you plane it flat to remove the track marks.
    Regards
    John

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Alexandra Vic
    Age
    69
    Posts
    2,810

    Default

    A planer will likely cause chip out if you try to use it to level the assembled box joints later as the joint segments perpendicular to that being planed will have unsupported edges. Use a sacrificial caul clamped into place to to support these segments to minimise chip out and plane through the caul as well. Not an issue when prepping surfaces, but can become one when cleaning up the finished assembly.
    I used to be an engineer, I'm not an engineer any more, but on the really good days I can remember when I was.

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    52

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by malb View Post
    A planer will likely cause chip out if you try to use it to level the assembled box joints later as the joint segments perpendicular to that being planed will have unsupported edges. Use a sacrificial caul clamped into place to to support these segments to minimise chip out and plane through the caul as well. Not an issue when prepping surfaces, but can become one when cleaning up the finished assembly.
    Thanks mate. I haven't yet assembled, but was toying with the idea of planing when assembled. Trouble is because I sanded aggressively on the first go, I've actually cut fairly deep into the top on one side, so I'll have to plane it all to the same thickness later before assembly. I guess that works in my favour.

    Thanks for the tips.

  9. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    lower eyre peninsular
    Age
    74
    Posts
    3,580

    Default

    thinking outside the square, if your only going to use it occasionally contact one of the local cabinet makers and see if they would run it through a wide belt sander
    I would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    SE Melb
    Age
    64
    Posts
    1,277

    Default

    I'd use a router and a cradle to flatten your board. A cradle of that size is easy to make, all it needs a cradle with 2 sides with equal length and a flat board mounted on top. The router with a straight bit is sitting on the board and you move the cradle around your work piece to remove the high spots. Nice and easy.

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    52

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonyz View Post
    thinking outside the square, if your only going to use it occasionally contact one of the local cabinet makers and see if they would run it through a wide belt sander
    Exactly what my Mrs said except then I can't buy new tools?
    But yes, definitely an option in future. Those things are amazing machines

    Quote Originally Posted by justonething View Post
    I'd use a router and a cradle to flatten your board. A cradle of that size is easy to make, all it needs a cradle with 2 sides with equal length and a flat board mounted on top. The router with a straight bit is sitting on the board and you move the cradle around your work piece to remove the high spots. Nice and easy.
    Ugh, never thought of that. I've seen enough videos of it being done, I didn't think about doing the same thing. Great option, thanks! (although I've already bought the planer, but maybe I can use this method in future too)

  12. #11
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    SE Melb
    Age
    64
    Posts
    1,277

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by aussieadam View Post
    Exactly what my Mrs said except then I can't buy new tools?
    But yes, definitely an option in future. Those things are amazing machines



    Ugh, never thought of that. I've seen enough videos of it being done, I didn't think about doing the same thing. Great option, thanks! (although I've already bought the planer, but maybe I can use this method in future too)
    In my experience, it is quite difficult to get a truly flat surface using an electric planer, coz the shoe is generally quite short and not wide enough. you may want to move it from different orientations to even out the surface a bit more. On the other hand, the cradle gives a true reference point across the whole surface of your slab, provide you are doing it on a flat surface.

  13. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    52

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by justonething View Post
    In my experience, it is quite difficult to get a truly flat surface using an electric planer, coz the shoe is generally quite short and not wide enough. you may want to move it from different orientations to even out the surface a bit more. On the other hand, the cradle gives a true reference point across the whole surface of your slab, provide you are doing it on a flat surface.
    Honestly, I've been thinking about this the whole afternoon. I still might build it. I've got a spare sheet of 18mm plywood sitting in the garage, I'd only need a quarter of it I reckon, it should take me a morning's work to do.
    But the flip side is I really want to use the planer as well An aluminum straight edge will help me find the high spots fairly easily, though I'd have to make sure it's parralel to the workbench (could build simple supports with dados/grooves to slot the straight edge into, and run it on the workbench with the bottom edge being as close to the tabletop as possible.)

Similar Threads

  1. Best way to seal plywood and chipboard edges?
    By Dengue in forum FINISHING
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 29th November 2013, 11:38 AM
  2. Finishing exposed plywood edges
    By rnm85 in forum FINISHING
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 20th May 2012, 04:00 PM
  3. Smoothing plywood edges
    By Dengue in forum WOODWORK - GENERAL
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 22nd November 2009, 01:40 PM
  4. Replies: 16
    Last Post: 15th August 2007, 11:13 PM
  5. Rounding off Plywood Edges
    By commonman00 in forum WOODWORK - GENERAL
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 30th May 2007, 11:19 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •