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Thread: How would you prevent this?
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15th August 2006, 06:00 PM #1
How would you prevent this?
Dear all,
Not sure that this is the correct section to post this but I hope it serves as a warning for all of us and reaches as many people as possible. My sister was complaining that her ducted heating wasn't working and there was a leak under her house. I went there and found that the copper pipe was cut in many places and that some of her fittings were missing. At first I thought that the pipe had broken by itself, then I realised that the padbolt to her trapdoor had been cut with bolt cutters and someone had stolen some of the plumbing under the house. Rang the police who confirmed it and said it wasn't uncommon for this to happen. Got a plumber in and he also said this was becoming more common as the price of copper was increasing, he estimates it will take a day to replace the piping and fittings.
Has this happened to anyone else and has anyone please tell me what sort of door I should install and how to attach it so that this doesn't happen again? The plumber has said that the ******** who did this would likely come back again, I want them to go away empty handed next time!
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15th August 2006, 06:24 PM #2
Switch over to plastic pipe & connections. A funny and a serious answer.
Your thread is absolutely amazing that anyone could spare the time (to be economical viable) to commit such a crime.
.woody U.K.
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15th August 2006, 07:20 PM #3Originally Posted by jow104Your thread is absolutely amazing that anyone could spare the time (to be economical viable) to commit such a crime.
Hey, you're in Pommy land, are the stories of people stealing cast iron drainage grates and selling them for scrap true?
ian
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15th August 2006, 07:26 PM #4
That's extraordinary!
I have trouble believing that some dipstick would find it worthwhile doing this sort of thing, but do believe your tale. Someone must desperately lacking in the effort/value department!
Still, this is a total buggah for your sister. Never mind the copper being part of the earthing system - why not make it part of the 'live' circuit!
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15th August 2006, 07:42 PM #5
Ian,
It sound more profitable and cost effective than the Oz. scam.
After all a fifty mile trip along the highway should yield 17 drain covers every mile x 50 = 850 and come back up the other lane x2 = 1700 at $5 each= $8500 for an evenings work. Thats cost effective.woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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15th August 2006, 08:11 PM #6
It's somewhat of a rather large problem here in Adelaide where they are stripping homes of all copper including the wireing.
Mostly new constructions and unoccupied homes. Apparently it's been a problem in the building industry for some time but has been more prevelant scince the price of copper went skyward. The only thing you can do is keep your eyes open and definatly report it to the police.There's no such thing as too many Routers
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15th August 2006, 09:48 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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Hmmm, threw out a couple of hundred kg's of cable about 4 weeks ago.
Dan
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15th August 2006, 10:12 PM #8
This Stuff painted on the pipes etc, would put a nice dent in their profits.
http://www.resene.com.au/comn/whtsnew/sentinel.htm
HJ0
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15th August 2006, 11:29 PM #9Originally Posted by HJ0
Paper oversuit and gloves would be the course I would follow if I was naughty.woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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15th August 2006, 11:41 PM #10
Copper theft is becoming widespread here in the States as well. Favourite targets are air conditioning condensors, which are stolen right from people's back yards and they return home to find it gone! Also construction sites are commonly ransacked for copper piping and wiring.
But it still seems to me to be a lot of work for not much reward (unless you get an entire truck load).Cheers,
Bob
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16th August 2006, 12:09 AM #11Originally Posted by jow104
All the above, plus transporting and storing the messy copper pipes. Would soon become a pita.
Opps forgot that paper suit darn it, look at my clothes...will turps get it off lol.
The scrap merchant or end user would be complaining also...get that stuff out of here now.
Be nice to see the crims. Spending all weekend on a milkcrate out the backyard, wiping the stuff off.
HJ0
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16th August 2006, 11:03 AM #12GOLD MEMBER
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Originally Posted by Tiger
Any chance of putting a web cam on the door and hook it up to a recorder?
Check out the scrap metal dealers/recyclers in your area and do some asking - you never know you could get lucky.
After the piping is renewed - in some hidden places - scratch your sister's VIN or phone # - if found it is easy to ID.
I know what I would like to do to them but you get serious holiday time in the grey bar hotel for that - however I can still dream.
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16th August 2006, 11:15 AM #13
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16th August 2006, 11:33 AM #14Banned
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Maybe what you need is a bluddy big, mean, hungry dog chained to the access door. A black dog to stop the dear little sod(s) from seeing it until too late. If you hear screaming during the night, wait 5 minutes then call the police.
Seriously, these little snots don't understand what it is like to pointlessly lose your usually hard earned possessions. On the rare occasions when these armholes are caught and convicted, the court needs the ability to order ALL of their possessions seized and given to the crime victim. I mean ALL of their possessions, regardless of value. Leave them one change of cothes and that's it. Think about it - Computer, MP3 player, CDs, daggy clothes, spray-paint tins, CAR! - ALL GONE!
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16th August 2006, 01:57 PM #15
Thanks guys for the symathies. I have been asked about why I posted this here. I'm looking to build some sort of foolproof trapdoor (to the side of the house) so that entry can't be gained by boltcutters etc. I couldn't think of a way to do it myself and hoping that someone could suggest a way with wood or metal that would stop this thing from happening again. The current door is made of wood and did have a padbolt and padlock but it clearly wasn't much protection. I suspect that there isn't an easy way to build such a door but I am determined that this doesn't happen again.