Thread: quick question..

Glue, nails, dovetails, spline, dowels, bluetac.

Depends on what your want to achive??
More info please....

Al

Welcome:

I would have decided what joint or joints I was going to use before I commited any cutting, your mitre has trapped you in a corner.

Joints do not read grass (OZwinner)

Dowels need to be EXACTLY located, Biscuits are more forgiving. I suggest the GMC biscuit joiner as it has good height adjustment but look around though. Also look at the Ryobi.

Woody

sorry for the lack of detail. I am trying to make a jewlery case or something like that i guess you could say. i wanted to try cutting a rebate with my router for panneling to go into as i have never done this before. i guess the main thing is that i didn't want to have nails sticking out every where. as for dove tails and spline I wouldn't have the first clue on how to achieve them. just a newbie

Let's forget dovetails until you get a dovetail jig (like a Gifkins). You've started at the sharp end doing mitres because there isn't room for error. They are hard to do.

I'd suggest something simple so get a plan and go from there before you get into making something without one. The Triton site has a plan for a letterbox which is satisfying and yet pretty easy to make. A good starting project whether you have a Triton or not. You're going to make plenty of mistakes too so don't expect too much at first. It's a learning curve which has no end.

Practice some dovetails on some scrap.
Then cut off your mitres and make the box that much smaller using dovetails.

That Gumby's a rich man

Dovetails are alright with chisels to start with.

Originally Posted by jow104

That Gumby's a rich man

Dovetails are alright with chisels to start with.

No I'm not, I just can't cut them any other way.

Hi Toolman

A splined joint looks a bit like the attached pic. As you can see a matching slot (or slots) is cut in each piece to be joined. Then a small spline is glued in place. If you use a different type of wood for the spline it can be a feature and show how clever you are

Cheers

Ian

Originally Posted by Ianab

Hi Toolman

A splined joint looks a bit like the attached pic. As you can see a matching slot (or slots) is cut in each piece to be joined. Then a small spline is glued in place. If you use a different type of wood for the spline it can be a feature and show how clever you are

Cheers

Ian

Ian that joint looks interesting, can you also suggest how you wouldgo about cutting, also thinking a reverse of joint with wedge going from the inside would make stretchers. (for oil painting canvases) Any suggestions?

Originally Posted by Gumby

expect too much at first. It's a learning curve which has no end.

Couldn't agree more. The cruel thing is that when you start to think "Hmmm, I know how to do that now" and go zooming off to try something more ambitious with the newly "mastered" technique, nine out of ten times it'll bite you and the a**e

Cheers!
Steve B

Originally Posted by jow104

That Gumby's a rich man

Dovetails are alright with chisels to start with.

Yeah!, it's just the marking out that's a s*d

Cheers!
Steve B

Ian that joint looks interesting, can you also suggest how you wouldgo about cutting

Actually easiest to make that joint using hand tools (now thats unusual for me)
Stand each board on end in the vise and make 2 saw cuts then chisel out the waste. You glue the spline in place slightly bigger than needed, then plane off the extra once the glue is dry and it should all work out.

I'm sure that some sort of jig and a table saw would achieve the same result in twice the time

No reason you cant use that joint for your stretchers, it will hold the join against forces in any direction. The spline is held by glue, not by any sort of wedging force, it's just the spline gives some mechanical support and a much improved glue area to the basic mitre joint.

Cheers

Ian

Thanks Ian, thought also how I would go about making a production run using that joint and came up with the thought of setting up the router table, 45 degree gauge and using my biscuit slotter.