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19th April 2019, 09:37 PM #1New Member
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Reinforcing parrot perch
Hi, how are you?
Ok, so I have a wooden dowel, 35mm, that's attached by its end (via a screw) to the centre of a wooden board (as the base), to make something of a parrot perch.
The wooden dowel has started to split where it's attached to the board, so the parrot perch is loose and rocks back and forth.
How do I go about reinforcing the dowel so it doesn't move, but stays straight up and down?
I was thinking about using 4 L brackets, strapping them to the dowel on each side with a metal ziptie, and screwing them down to the board. Is this an ok plan or does that sound dumb? Or is there a better way of doing it? I have nil experience and thus have no godly idea what I'm doing, and would appreciate any feedback.
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20th April 2019, 09:21 AM #2Try not to be late, but never be early.
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Go to a hardware shop and buy a hose-clamp of the appropriate diameter and fasten it around the cracked dowel.
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20th April 2019, 09:11 PM #3New Member
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I tried attaching a hope clamp, but the dowel still leans to one side.
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20th April 2019, 09:33 PM #4
My method would be to counterbore the board so that the dowel is snuggly located in a hole. If the board is too thin, then double the thickness where the dowel goes by adding a smaller piece of board or a collar. The key though is to make the hole only just big enough for a snug fit around the dowel.
The biggest improvement though would be not using a woodscrew into endgrain of the dowel (weak joint and splits easily as you’ve found) but to bore the hole to take a threaded insert and use a machine screw/ bolt. These are cheaply available from Bunnies.Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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21st April 2019, 03:56 AM #5New Member
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"but to bore the hole to take a threaded insert and use a machine screw/ bolt."
The person that put this together may have already done that, but I'm not sure how far up into the dowel the screws went (yes, two of them). It looks like he's drilled the hell out of the screws, both the uh groove/knotches in the head of the screws are worn out, and they're dug deep into the wooden base. And... I'm not sure how to get them out.
The bird landing on it and taking off would have also weakened it over time too.
Hmm. I'm going to try getting some brackets and screws tomorrow. To see how hard my idea fails.
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21st April 2019, 09:08 AM #6
theres always going to be trouble repairing something like this, esp when Cocky has his share in the works.
For the time, frustration and money just go buy a new one, maybe even go and find a tree branch (thick one)I would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds
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21st April 2019, 10:57 AM #7
The existing dowel is split, this means you will need to replace that part to fix this, or at least vut away the split part (if it leaves it long enough)
Chief Tiff has the best suggestion, laminate two boards together, countersinking the new dowel into the existing board (you will bore out the existing screw holes to make them just big enough to accept the dowel). Then glue and screw the dowel into the second piece using a machine screw and bolt.
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21st April 2019, 01:39 PM #8New Member
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21st April 2019, 05:45 PM #9
Sorry for the confusion.
You would use two boards if the one you have now is thin - if it's thick enough, then simply bore a hole into it part way through to match the size of your dowel. If the board is thin, then laminate two together - laminating in this case means taking two boards, and putting them flat against each other, as if they were pages in a book. On one of them, you would drill a hole of the same size as your dowel, so when you put the dowel in that hole, it sits on the second board. This will give the joint some strength.
Screwing into end grain doesn't lead to a strong joint as you have found out.
The way around this is to get something like this: https://www.scrooz.com.au/m10-x-150m...grab-pack-of-5 (you might want, and need to search for a longer one) and drill a hole through the centre of your dowel, then bolt together with the nut at the end of your dowel.
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22nd April 2019, 10:40 AM #10New Member
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22nd April 2019, 12:31 PM #11New Member
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Ah, right. I see what you mean now. Thanks.
So, round peg in a round hole, where the hole acts as a kind of collar to hold the peg in place. And you don't attach the peg to the board, but the hole instead, thereby avoiding splitting the dowel.
I could probably be able to pull that off, except that I would need to do some kind of dowel surgery to get the screw out. The head of the screws have been worn down to nothing. Perhaps some sort of magnetised drill bit?
I did try the 4 L brackets and a hose clamp last night, to see how hard it would fail. And... It does look a little bit silly, as it's not really what brackets are for (I think). But... For $3.55 it works surprisingly well. The wobble is all but eliminated, maybe 1 or 2 mm at most. If I can excise the dowel I might even be able to a bore a hole into the board (to try Cheif Tiff's idea) but keep the existing janky brackets.
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